<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>I would be interested in details on your approach to my question. I = would go right to the archives, but how to find a specific post on something such as "tuning"? Would it be possible to forward a copy = of whatever you may have? I do not recall a post addressing the = subject, but there are always some that I miss. Many, many thanks for = anything you may be able to do.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Terry Farrell <SPAN = id=__#Ath#SignaturePos__></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Billbrpt@AOL.COM = href="mailto:Billbrpt@AOL.COM">Billbrpt@AOL.COM</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 05, = 2001 9:43 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: ETDs & = Non-Equal Temperaments</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2>In a = message dated 9/5/01 8:26:52 AM Central Daylight Time, <BR><A href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</A> = (Farrell) writes: <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">What procedures (aural checks, prayers, waiting for = proper planetary <BR>alignment, etc.) do ETD users use when tuning = non-equal temperaments to <BR>ensure a good tuning for the subject piano = (check octaves and let it go at <BR>that?)? I know some often tune spinets = with various non-ET temperaments and <BR>these especially need proper = checks. Aside from learning to tune these <BR>non-ET temperaments well by = ear (which, of course would be the best way - <BR>but hey, I'm only = human) how does anyone go about this? Tips, tricks, <BR>techniques? <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 = size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR>I've written about this many times over.  There is no "hocus-pocus" to it <BR>such as your "planetary = alignment" phrase implies.  It is so surprisingly <BR>simple that I have had = no qualms about calling it "Mindless Octaves".  I <BR>developed the = method when I was still tuning ET back in the early 1980's and <BR>continued = it when I started exploring the HT's and on to the development of <BR>the = EBVT.  Steve Fairchild RPT uses basically the same approach. <BR><BR>I = have absolutely no use whatsoever for any programmed tuning curve because = <BR>what I do is better, far and away better.  It goes right to the heart = of why <BR>the scale is tempered to begin with and uses the piano's own = inharmonicity to <BR>determine exactly the compromise I make.  Again, it is so = easy and simple <BR>that I think of it as *mindless* because I can tune aurally = with the same <BR>accuracy and consistency as I can with an ETD whether it = is the first or last <BR>tuning of the day, whether I am tired or not feeling = well. <BR><BR>I've published the entire explanation and process on this List = and offered it <BR>more than a few times privately.  But of course, = there are the many who <BR>dismiss what I have to say out of hand and delete = before reading.  That's <BR>your problem, not mine.  My only = question about the Verituner is whether it <BR>can do what I do.  If it can, it = would be worth purchasing, mainly because of <BR>its compact size and long = battery life.  Until I know the answer to that, the <BR>SAT II suits me = just fine. <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 = size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Bill Bremmer RPT <BR>Madison, Wisconsin</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>