<html> <body> I may not have mentioned before that while it does only take me about 5 minutes to get all the pins out that is after the becket was broken and the string removed. I use an impact wrench and the pins come out quite warm indeed but I have absolutely no intention of saving the old block. My wife is about Tracey's size and I'm quite sure would say that she couldn't do it if faced with only the Milwaukee drill. With the pneumatic impact wrench the kick is just not that great. Greg  At 08:08 PM 9/8/2005, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> Tracey, our 110 lb., 5' 4" shop person, pulls the whole set in about 15 to 20 minutes (including a break to rest her arms) with our trusty old Milwaukee. The pin holes show no visible damage. There is no smoke. And the pins, while suitably warm, are not too hot to pick up.   We may even give her a break and get her an impact wrench.   (Of course, we always replace the pinblocks anyway so the condition of the original block really doesn't matter.)   Del <dl><hr> <dd>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" eudora="autourl"> mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Ross White <dd>Sent: September 08, 2005 4:37 PM <dd>To: Pianotech <dd>Subject: Re: Removing tuning pins with the Milwaukee Drill <dd>If you really spun them out, they would be too hot to touch.  There might also be wisps of smoke.  If the old pins were warm but not hot, perhaps they were loose.  Did any wood stick to the old pins; sometimes little bits of wood will stick to the pins.  Boy Scouts start fires by this kind of procedure, wood on wood.  Friction produces heat.  How long does it take you to remove a set of pins with a Milwaukee drill.  Takes me a couple of hours to do it by hand; and, it's not that hard.  <dl> <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: <a href="mailto:phil@philbondi.com">Phil Bondi</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</a> <dd>Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:19 PM <dd>Subject: Re: Removing tuning pins with the Milwaukee Drill <dd>Ross White wrote: <dd>> If you spin tuning pins out, you're going to scorch the holes in the <dd>> block.  You don't want that. <dd>Ross, can you offer more explanation on this? The reason I ask is <dd>because I just got done 'spinning' , with a hi torque-lo RPM Milwaukee <dd>drill, the treble section of a 100 year old S&S 0, and the pins were <dd>warm to the touch..not hot. <dd>I don't know for sure, but my gut tells me that I did not scorch the <dd>holes. I would be interested to hear more about your personal experience <dd>with this..or from anyone else for that matter since I have the rest of <dd>the block to do yet. <dd>-Phil Bondi(Fl) <dd>_______________________________________________ <dd>pianotech list info: <a href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"> https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a> </blockquote> <x-sigsep></x-sigsep> </dl> </dl>Greg Newell Greg's piano Forté <a href="mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net" eudora="autourl"> mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net</a></body> </html>