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<DIV><SPAN class=770593706-22082004><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">I =
trained from
aural tuners in the early 70's. I was told, "this =
third is too
fast" or "this third is too slow" and this would be pointed out in =
playing a
succession of 3rds either contiguous, but mostly chromatic within the
temperament octave. The first test of temperament was how =
evenly
the 3rds progressed chromatically. Then they went =
after the
5ths. Usually a 3rd that was off would immediately lead to
a horrid sounding 5th that my teacher would sound
and then play it for emphasis in an impromptu beer hall
waltz. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=770593706-22082004></SPAN><SPAN
class=770593706-22082004> <FONT
face="MS Sans Serif">The progression of 3rds was sort of a catechism =
in the way
I was trained and how I was tested. They (the 3rds) had to =
progress evenly
and smoothly. I was not instructed in a specific beat rate =
for a
specific 3rd or the mnemonic of how to achieve it. =
Rather,
when I was told a 3rd was too slow or too fast , it was easily =
discernible
out of the pattern of the even progression of 3rds. So as I
progressed the "progression" became better and my fault =
finding
reached the level of my teachers and thus I became a "journeyman" =
or
"peer". I realized I could become as good or =
better
through continual testing and resulting recognition =
and this continues
today. It is with wonder and awe that I realize after 30 years =
there
are still tuners who are 20 years my senior and very =
much twenty
years better than me and I still have much more to learn.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=770593706-22082004><FONT
face="MS Sans Serif"> You always have to be =
evaluated if you
want to keep your edge which is necessary if you want to go to the top =
or at
least be recognized by "top" tuners as competent or capable at least as =
their
substitutes (as if they would ever allow such an opportunity to =
happen,,,,
but they do) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=770593706-22082004><FONT
face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=770593706-22082004><FONT
face="MS Sans Serif">---ric </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT> </DIV><FONT face=Arial>
<P><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">"The more extensive a man's knowledge of =
what has
been done, </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">the greater will be his power of knowing =
what to
do."</FONT></P>
<P>Benjamin Disraeli (1804-1881); British politician.</P></FONT><SPAN
class=770593706-22082004><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT></SPAN>
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align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On =
Behalf Of
</B>jason kanter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 21, 2004 10:03
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Hearing
beats<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>I learned "from Chicago to New =
York" (7) and
"from Mississippi to New York" (8).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tune4@earthlink.net =
href="mailto:tune4@earthlink.net">Paul Chick
(Earthlink)</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 21, =
2004 7:37
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Hearing =
beats</DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT =
face=Tahoma
size=2><B>Subject:</B> Hearing beats<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Hi =
Gang:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I'm mentoring =
a new
technician who is having trouble with beat speeds. Does =
anyone
remember an article in print that relates words to beat speeds, =
i.e.
mississippi being a four beat per second indicator, popocotepetal
(sp) I can't remember if it was in PTJ, or another piece of
information. Thanks....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2> Mike =
Kurta<BR><SPAN
class=439173114-21082004><FONT
color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN =
class=439173114-21082004><FONT
color=#0000ff>I can't recall the instructor..."any word or =
phrase with the
appropriate number of syllables that you can easily =
repeat with a
steady rhythm can teach you to time your beat
speeds..."</FONT> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=439173114-21082004>Paul
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C</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY=
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