<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1276" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You've got a good tech down there, Guy Nichols. Talk to him.  The amount of stretch is not going to = matter. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"<FONT face="Times New Roman" = size=3>It has a lot of false beats too."  </FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That's probably getting closer to the = source of the problem. We here in Arizona are also in a very dry climate. The false = beats are probably caused by the bridge pins being not firmly in the wood anymore. = Have you ever seen a Baldwin with a split out bridge? I sure have.... For = some reason, they don't seem to be able to dry out their wood before they = ship it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pick out a string that has a false = beat, and take a soft metal tool and push it to the side while you play it. The false = beat will either go away, or slow down quite a bit. That should tell you = something.  There are other things that can cause false beats, but on a Baldwin = I bet that's it. Look at the bridge pin, and see if it appears to = be quite a bit of metal above the string, if it does, put a punch on it and GENTL</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>Y try to tap it down a = bit. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The real fix would be to remove = the pin and put thin epoxy down in the hole and then replace the pin. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman" = size=3>"Next time I'll insist on removing all the pictures and sculptures so <BR>I can go after = those."</FONT> </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I went to seminars for years wanting to = know what to do about false beats, I found out more about the problem from = this list than I did anywhere else, enough to tell you that you're not going to = find them looking in the wrong places to start.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Check the archives, or learn how to, it = will give you a lot more information, and get in touch with Guy.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kevin E. Ramsey</FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=anrebe@zianet.com href="mailto:anrebe@zianet.com">Andrew = & Rebeca Anderson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=oleg-i@noos.fr href="mailto:oleg-i@noos.fr">oleg-i@noos.fr</A> ; <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 08, = 2004 6:30 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: accutuner as = tuning fork</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Now that's a cool trick to play on a doubtful = customer!  As I'm taking <BR>tuning as a profession more seriously now (not just = my wife's grand) I'm <BR>finding that most of my new customers haven't = had a tech in years.  Pitch <BR>raises are what I do most of.  They can = hear the difference.  The piano <BR>would sound dull, but after tuning = it would be "alive".<BR>Speaking of "alive," my mother-in-law has a 6' = DH-Baldwin that is <BR>distractingly "alive" when tuned.  I mean it rings a = little too much for my <BR>taste.  I've been debating whether I should = revise how I stretch it, or if <BR>I need to adjust some of the = aliquots.  It has a lot of false beats <BR>too.  Next time I'll insist on = removing all the pictures and sculptures so <BR>I can go after those.  I'm = wondering if braiding might be called for or if <BR>a little twist against the = wire to put a tiny kink in it might help to <BR>detune them a = little.<BR><BR>Andrew Anderson<BR>Las Cruces, NM<BR><BR><BR><BR>At 01:24 AM 1/9/2004 +0100, = you wrote:<BR>>I noticed that almost all customers can appreciate the difference in<BR>>tone quality between 1 string at 435 and the = other at 440 -42. just<BR>>the spectra, not even the pitch !<BR>><BR>>best = regards. = Isaac<BR>><BR>>_______________________________________________<BR>&= gt;pianotech list info: <A = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org= /mailman/listinfo/pianotech</A><BR><BR>__________________________________= _____________<BR>pianotech list info: <A = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org= /mailman/listinfo/pianotech</A></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>