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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hazen,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For me it depends on how loose the pins =
are.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If they will not even hold but waaaah =
back down an
octave when you let go of the hammer, most likely that pin will need =
treated
twice or shimmed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Most of the time the piano needs more =
than a
treatment of the tuning pins. If the tuning pin is loose so will the =
bridge
pins. So, usually I tune the piano first then take out the action, =
treat
the tuning pins with two passes on each section (with all the windows =
open and
fans going and a breathing mask so that I look like Darth Vader) and =
then make
two passes with the tilter at 45 degrees (mine rests at that slant on =
the
wheels) on all the treble string bridge pins. As these are old beaters I =
am not
too concerned about the instriment ever being restrung or getting a new =
board.
removes most of the false beats. Tuning the piano first and getting it =
up to
pitch as much as possible is important to me as I feel that there is =
a
need to have the speaking length very close to where it will be after =
the fine
tuning.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When the piano is returned to the =
upright position
it is retuned, this might not be for a day but can be done immediatly,
but if there is excess glue on the plate or I may use paper towels =
and a
screw driver to mop up the excess if I am 50 or more miles from
home.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Usually the CA will scum over after 30 =
minutes if
fairly dry on the plate. You will have to use good judgement, you do not =
want
any CA on the speaking lengths of any string especally bass strings! =
Plain wire
can be cleaned up if it gets in the wrong place but it is a real
hastle.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Joe Goss<BR><A
href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI=
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black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=HazenBannister@cs.com
href="mailto:HazenBannister@cs.com">HazenBannister@cs.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 11, =
2001 5:28
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> loose-pins</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2>Hi list, =
<BR> I
have to go to a new customer friday,with an old upright.He said he =
thinks it
has some loose pins.I have used the pin tightener from Schaff, also =
have used
over-sized pins, and have used sandpaper bushing ,as well as driving =
the
pins.I was looking for <BR>maybe a new,or better idea.I have read =
about CA
glue in the journal,and wondered what kinda results some of you may =
have had
with it loose tuning pins.Also what <BR>kind of time are you looking =
at before
tuning,after using this method. <BR><BR>Thanks much, <BR>Hazen =
Bannister
<BR>Western Carolinas Chapter</FONT> =
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