<HTML>In a message dated 6/12/2002 11:02:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, davidlovepianos@earthlink.net writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Subj:Pin Driving Fluid: More info Date:6/12/2002 11:02:31 PM Pacific Standard Time From:<A HREF="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net">davidlovepianos@earthlink.net</A> Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> To:<A HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> Sent from the Internet          David </BLOCKQUOTE>           Thanks so much for the research. Trix and I were just discussing how to find this product yesterday. I'm hoping it takes some strain out of the job so her arm doesn;t suffer as much from swinging the hammer.   In fact we are going (driving) to Oregon in July. I'm guessing there's Hazardous material ( penalties) chargeto ship the stuff very far. Need a gallon while we're there.   Thanks---Dale And Trix Erwin   <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> For those who followed the PDF thread awhile back and are interested in just what it is and how you might get it, the following information may be of use and is a supplement to the information already provided by Joe Garrett. Trefz Pin Driving Fluid is, apparently, a phenolic resin without the addition of any of the typical dryers (solvents) added by various manufacturers to create their own products.  In other words, it is the raw material from which certain types of varnishes are made.  Rodda paint in Oregon carries such a product known as 1067-S1.  If you live in Oregon or Washington you can buy the product from a Rodda Paint dealer for about $15.00 per gallon.  Rodda Paint gets the product from a company called McWhorter Technologies, Inc., in Carpentersville, IL 60110, 1-888-CALL-MWT.  It is known as H354B, Product code 207 1196, Product Name Duramac 207-1196. If you contact McWhorter, you might find out which companies in your area purchase the raw material for production and buy it before they add their own formula of solvents.  FYI  Schaff still sells Trefz Pin Driving Fluid in 4oz bottles.  They do not list it in their catalogue, but it is available upon request. David Love </BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML>