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V> I still say that mineral oil or silicone won't cure verdig=
ris. I've tried the silicone and toluene as Yamaha directs and it works i=
n some sluggish flange cases but is also only a temporary fix for v=
erdigris. The mineral oil I've not tried. How bout some feedback fr=
om you all with extensive experience with it. Be specific.</DIV> <DIV>&nb=
sp; I'm still waiting for the feedback from Dan Reeds post last week</DIV=
> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best- Dale Erwin </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <=
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T: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUN=
D: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Allan L. Gilreat=
h, RPT</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, Octob=
er 04, 2001 7:20 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> pian=
otech@ptg.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: n=
aphtha + mineral oil</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>Terry,<BR><BR>The original re=
search found this to work better at a concentration of 8<BR>parts naphtha=
to 1 part silicone. There are other variables that you can<BR>get =
into but I've been working with a chemist on some of these particulars.<B=
R>But maybe I can play with that more after next summer.<BR><BR>Allan<BR>=
<BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:o=
wner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf<BR>Of pianolover 88<BR>Sent: Wednesday, =
October 03, 2001 1:16 PM<BR>To: pianotech@ptg.org<BR>Subject: Re: naptha =
+ mineral oil<BR><BR><BR>I'm waiting for my order of 100% Silicone Liquid=
, from Baldwin. This will be<BR>my substitute for the outrageously priced=
Protek! This is cut 20/1<BR>naptha/silicone.<BR><BR>Terry Peterson<BR>Pr=
ecision Piano Service<BR>Torrance, CA<BR><BR><BR>>From: "Howard S. Ros=
en" <hsrosen@earthlink.net><BR>>Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org<BR>&=
gt;To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org><BR>>Subject: naptha + min=
eral oil<BR>>Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 12:53:14 -0400<BR>><BR>><BR>&=
gt;Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 07:40:29 -0400<BR>>From: "Phil Bondi" <tit=
o@PhilBondi.com><BR>>Subject: Re: naphtha + mineral oil<BR>><BR>=
> > A number of years ago, I worked in a pi=
ano shop where the we used a<BR>> > mixture of mineral oil and naph=
tha to lubricate sluggish flanges. What<BR>>is<BR>> > anyo=
ne's opinion on this?<BR>> > Gary McCormick<BR>> ><BR>>..I=
'm really glad someone else mention this before me..yes..I use this, and<=
BR>>it works just fine...4 parts naphtha-1 part Mineral oil.<BR>><B=
R>>whew,<BR>>roo(k)<BR>>___________________________________<BR>&=
gt;<BR>>I agree with the roo(k). I've used this for 30 years with grea=
t results and<BR>>no adverse effects. However, my formula is 8 parts n=
aphtha to 1 part<BR>>mineral<BR>>oil. My feeling is that 4 to 1 mig=
ht be too oily and might gum things up. I<BR>>don't know for sure...ju=
st a gut feeling.<BR>><BR>>With all the praises for Proteck, I too =
never felt that it worked any<BR>>better<BR>>than my formula above.=
Amazing, isn't it, how we techs differ in our ideas,<BR>>approaches, =
opinions,methods etc. ?<BR>><BR>>Howard S. Rosen, RPT<BR>>7262 A=
ngel Falls Ct.<BR>>Boynton Beach, FL 33437<BR>><BR>>561-73=
7-2057<BR>>hsrosen@earthlink.net<BR>><BR><BR><BR>__________________=
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