<HTML>It has become very obvious by the answers given, that a majority of us use an ETD. I expected this. But in addition to the answers to the survey, most ETD users stressed, that in addition to the ETD, the importance of using the ear to verify or check the tuning. When I took the Sanderson's class on the SAT III in Charlotte a couple of weeks ago, they mentioned that changes in weather effect the inharmonicity of the strings, so that even a canned tuning needs to be tweeked occasionally to assure it is still within our parameters of a fine tuning. But in order to tweek the machine's stored tuning, it must be measured against what our ears tell us. For any one of you who feel compelled to remain being an aural tuner, I would like to urge you to look into getting an ETD. I think Ed's post on this subject brings it home. Not only is he using his ears to follow up on the ETD tunings, he is actually storing an aural tuning in the SAT. That, I think, is what makes these machines so valuable. The new age of electronics and computers is helping us in many ways. An ETD is a computer. If we learn how to use it properly, it will make us better tuners. And is amazing how the use of an ETD takes the stress out of tuning. Just my 2 cents worth. Wim </HTML>