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<DIV><SPAN class=152353110-30032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>Dale,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=152353110-30032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>I
remember was on a Petrof, and the sides where colored artificially. The =
edge of
the finish where damaged, and the low sides of the dampers shows marks, =
so I had
to black them again with dye.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=152353110-30032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>I
don't recall the wall paper remover have any acetic acid in, only =
wetting agent
(?) . The problem in fact was that the damper wood was softer than =
expected on
this piano. I had marks on key bushings too when using the wall paper =
remover
method.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=152353110-30032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>I
guess that there are number of methods that apply well on US pianos =
because of
the material used, but can't be always used on pianos from other =
provenance
.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=152353110-30032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>I was
not aware of that in time, now I am more cautious =
generally.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=152353110-30032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>Probably a little 70% alcohol mixed can soften the glue and =
fasten the
process, I used this lately for taking off grand knuckle and the pliers =
where
very efficient immediately, with no part breakage as when used
dry.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=152353110-30032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=152353110-30032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>Isaac
OLEG</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> =
owner-pianotech@ptg.org
[mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]<B>De la part de</B>
Erwinspiano@AOL.COM<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> vendredi 29 mars =
2002
04:20<BR><B>À :</B> =
pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re: You're
never too good<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT =
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face="Times New Roman Greek" size=3 FAMILY="SERIF">In a message =
dated
3/28/2002 3:52:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, oleg-i@wanadoo.fr
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We have used your method with some wall paper remover but we always =
seem to
have some problem with the old finish especially on the ends of the =
damper
block. Frequently we must refinish which is time costly.After reading =
this
post next time I will try just hot water. We had specially made metal =
trays
made that we place side by side . The dampers sit astride the trays =
,one
damper in each tray and then the hot water and some wall paper =
remover
is poured in but I,m now thinking that the acidic acid is the problem =
with the
finish. I'll find out soon enough. you could try the same thing and =
post back.
I think the stains are apparent only on dampers that aren't dyed black =
but are
just the natural wood color. Is that what you meant by =
stains?<BR>
<<<<<<<<<<<<,Dale
Erwin>.....</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
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TYPE="CITE"><BR><BR><BR>Hello ,<BR><BR><BR>The only time I used =
water (and a
very little wall paper remover) on grand<BR>damper felts, the water =
goes in
the wood and leave ugly marks on the sides<BR>(and I did not even =
install
them in Tepperware or a recipe, only soaked the<BR>felt, put the =
heads back
on a tray and wait 30 min).<BR><BR>So I stick with the chiseling =
method,
then sand the remaining glue flat, it<BR>is fast and clean, just I =
take care
to sand level.<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR>Isaac
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