<HTML><HEAD></HEAD> <BODY> You do the best you can in the= situation.   I'm in total agreement.  = Another reason why I love my ETD.   I know, if I have= to, I can tune every string to the ETD and the piano will sound= pretty good. David I.     ----- Original message= ----------------------------------------> From: antares= <<A= href="mailto:antares@euronet.nl">antares@euronet.nl</A>> T= o: Pianotech <<A= href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>> Rec= eived: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 23:18:19 +0100 Subject: Re: "should I= stay or should I go?" On the other hand Dave Skolnik, Most of= the time we have no choice but to grin and ignore. I used to= get incredibly furious, swear at people, stamp my feet or even= walk away from the scene in terrible anger. And you know= what? The years went by, and I am still tuning in the same= conditions. And you know what? I don't care= anymore. I ignore and I grin. André= Oorebeek On 10-nov-04, at 22:32, David Skolnik= wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE>Quentin - There is no one answer when you are= talking about theater, which, for these purposes, includes= concerts.  Even if you are dealing with a regular account,= it can take a long time and a lot of work, to train the people= around you, or the people who create the schedule, before the= requirements for tuning become accepted and anticipated. = And then, sometimes, sh_t happens.  A rehearsal goes late,= last minute stagecraft, etc.  The best approach, I think,= is to be  bit anal when making the original= arrangements.  Ask the scheduler if there is anything, as= in  ANYTHING, else going on during the tuning time. = Sometimes the scheduler and maintenance, or stage crew, don't= communicate so well.  It's worth double checking. = It is true how amazing it is that people (especially= musicians) don't make the connection between tuning and the need= for silence, which includes shuffling papers, whispering, or= sometimes, breathing, but, on the other hand, why should they= know.  There are times when the only course is to ask= someone to desist,,,as politely as possible.  At other= times, again, preparing for performance, other people may have= jobs that have to get done.  Then it becomes a matter of= determining what level of noise is essential for them to fulfill= their responsibilities, and what part of the usual noise can, in= this case be reasonably suppressed. Regarding the 2 or 3= people chatting vs. 15 making noise, sometimes the few can be= more annoying, to me.  A lot of the time it depends upon= the need.  The 15 may have no choice but to carry on, to= prepare for a show, while the 2 or 3 could probably take the= conversation somewhere else.  I will not hesitate to= enlighten someone for a few offenses: Unnecessary= conversation or laughter Singing- especially the note I'm= tuning Whistling, ESPECIALLY THE NOTE I'M TUNING Jingling= keys on a key ring No noise accepted for a recording= session tuning. Otherwise, it's Show= Business. David Skolnik At 05:44 PM= 11/10/2004 +0100, you wrote: <?fontfamily><?param= Arial><?smaller>Hi= Patrick,<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>   <?fontfamily><?pa= ram Arial><?smaller>This afternoon, I had to tune for a concert= in a small= hall.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> <?fontfamily><?param= Arial><?smaller>I tuned the piano this morning, and had to check= it another time when it was= installed.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> <?fontfamily><?param= Arial><?smaller>People started installing the stage for the= choir (nearly 50 singers I think) just after I began checking= everything.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> <?fontfamily><?param= Arial><?smaller>Some notes were a little bit out of tune, I had= to tune them= correctly.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> <?fontfamily><?param= Arial><?smaller>People were trailing the stage "blocks"= everywhere and shouting at each other because they should have= finished work sooner and people wanted to go back= home.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> <?fontfamily><?param= Arial><?smaller>I asked for silence, everything remained noisy= all around me.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> <?fontfamily><?param= Arial><?smaller>I decided to... go= ;-)<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>   <?fontfamily><?param= Arial><?smaller>If they totally didn't care about my= concentration and about what I was doing, that's because they 'd= probably think the piano was good as it= was.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>   and... <BR= ><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>But don't you think people= should realize that making a good tuning requires good= conditions?<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>   <?fontfamily><= ?param Arial><?smaller>There is a difference between 2 or 3= people chatting and 15 persons screaming and moving chairs and= wood panels all around you while you're tuning= !<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>   <?fontfamily><?param= Arial><?smaller>I think I would have preferred 2 or 3 people= discussing in a normal way instead of this disturbing noises= !<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>   <?fontfamily><?param= Arial><?smaller>Quentin<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> </BL= OCKQUOTE>friendly greetings from André= Oorebeek "where Music is, no harm can= be" </BODY></HTML>