<HTML>In a message = dated 8/1/04 12:36:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jkanter@rollingball.com writ= es: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> I suppose there must be a web list populated by string players, where th= ere is some discussion of piano tuners. (I remember coming across something = of the sort for barbershop quartets, who have a similar issue with our "quirks".) I have not time this morning to look for it, but there is bou= nd to be some interesting discussion there. Every discipline has its own perspective, and there is always something to learn from understanding t= he other's perspective, no matter how fraught with misunderstanding it may = be. I will check this out soon.</BLOCKQUOTE> Jason, Thanks for the levelheaded approach and pointing out how important it is= to see--and hear--things from other people's perspective. And I agree with James about aural vs. digital.  I have tuned aural= ly for years, though I use Tunelab to get my pitch and sometimes when I'm in= a hurry and the piano is crummy.  For nicer pianos and picky clients, = I go with whichever method they prefer. Dave Stahl PS  Turns out the violinist liked my tuning after a day's deliberat= ion and testing</HTML>