<html> <body> Thanks, Jeannie. I thought that the insurance was through Safeco/PTG. I was hoping someone would chime in with "something". I use Safeco for my vehicle insurance and have never had a problem. However, .......... Avery At 11:42 PM 8/12/05, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">If you find your rates better than Safeco, please let the Board and the Home Office know.  Thanks, jeannie   Jeannie Grassi, RPT Assistant Editor, Piano Technicians Journal <a href="mailto:jcgrassi@earthlink.net">mailto:jcgrassi@earthlink.net</a>   <div align="center"> </div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" eudora="autourl"> mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Piannaman@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 7:17 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: Safeco business insurance   I was interested in getting a quote from someone else for a home/car-based small business insurance.  I called the first insurer I could think of, my car insurer, which is State Farm.  They quoted me a price that is less than half of what Safeco is offering.    It sounded good on the phone, but I will wait until I see a copy of the contract and compare the coverage they offer with Safeco before I make a firm decision.   State Farm has been really good for me. They've given me-the-spot coverage and ready phone assistance when needed.  And my rates didn't go up even after I filed a rather large claim (and I don't even know what they paid out to the guy I ran into........:-().   In fact, my rates have subsequently decreased.   I'll keep y'all posted on any pertinent info!   Dave Stahl   I'll get a copy of the In a message dated 8/12/05 2:37:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, spalding48@earthlink.net writes: <dl> <dd>My premiums jumped 20% in '02, but since then have been +/- 5% .  This year they went down a little.  Never filed a claim.  The year they went way up, I shopped around a little, but couldn't find anything remotely as reasonable, or with as broad a coverage.  YMMV. <dd>  <dd>Mike Spalding RPT <dd>  <dl> <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From:<a href="mailto:DBee840388@aol.com"> </a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <dd>Sent: 8/12/2005 2:37:37 PM <dd>Subject: Re: Safeco business insurance <dd>  <dd>In a message dated 8/12/2005 1:15:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Piannaman@aol.com writes: <dl> <dl> <dd>I got a quote from them that has me looking for competing bids. <dd>Andrew <dd>At 04:53 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote: <dd>To the list:  Just got a renewal notice from Safeco that my insurance will be raised 32% for the upcoming year!! Has anybody else encountered something like this?  <dd>  <dd>Don Bee, Sr., RPT <dd>Chicago Chapter </dl> <dd>My rates have gone up a bit, too.  I find it curious, and it got me wondering:  how many people have actually filed claims with Safeco?  Anybody on this list? <dd>  <dd>I, for one, have never filed a claim.  I have it for the same reason I have medical insurance:  catastrophic occurence! <dd>  <dd>Of course, if I were to cancel my policy, I'd have a Fazioli action fall off of my workbench...:-)  <dd>  <dd>I may be mistaken, but it seems as though the rate increase is due to whatever restructuring or sale took place when the Potter, Leonard name went away.  <dd>  <dd>Dave Stahl <dd>  <dd>  </dl> <dd>Dave  -  I've been with Safeco for years now and have never filed a claim (knock on you-know-what).  Thinking seriously about not renewing.  Don Bee </dl> </dl> </blockquote></body> </html>