<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you are talking about high friction, = yeah of course that's a problem, 5 - 7 swings is not high friction.   = The main thing you and Sara are missing is the wobble or lack of focus of the = hammer as it hits the string in loose pinning.   The difference in tone, = IMHO, isn't hammer staying on the string longer and somehow losing the higher = partials but the focus of power...I can hear the difference and like the sound.   Sustain is improved...I've repinned several = actions and the difference is noticeable.   I the same vein and = I've mentioned this before...I've repinned a number of Renner actions here in = California that had loose pinning in the birdseye not the = bushing...anyone else noticed this? </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David I.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianorye@yahoo.com href="mailto:pianorye@yahoo.com">Ryan = Sowers</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 26, 2004 = 12:29 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> friction and dynamics = (was repinning)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>I don't buy it Richard, because as a player I don't have time = once I begin playing a note to think about sensitivity. What produces a = certain velocity in my fingers is the mental <STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff80">intension</FONT></STRONG> I have = the microsecond <G> before I play the note. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The biggest factor to me in dynamics is a nice "accelleration = curve" from somewhat mellow and ppp to nasty and fff! If the voicing and = regulation give a nice mp when I playing with moderate force, a soothing pp when I let = up a bit, and a powerful forte when I lean into it a bit I have a wonderful time = playing. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To me extra friction just makes me work harder. Its a = distraction. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Richard Brekne = <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px = solid">Ryan Sowers wrote:<BR><BR>> I just can't understand why lower friction = and greater upweight would <BR>> decrease the control over the = dynamics? If the piano is well-voiced <BR>> you will have plenty of control = over the dynamics.<BR><BR>Because things are happening faster. You use less = time to accomplish <BR>the same mechanical work (hammer to string contact = efficiency asside, as <BR>its a seperate issue)<BR><BR>You put 40 grams of = force from the finger into the string... and you get <BR>more raw velocity out = of an action with less friction then another with <BR>more. Lets use your draconian example... 20 swings on the one hand vs 3 <BR>on the other.<BR><BR>It should be clear that for any given output velocity/force...etc... you <BR>will have to put in more effort in = the latter then the former. The flip <BR>side of that is that you have = less time in the former to do w! hatever you <BR>are attempting to do. The = window between max output and min has been <BR>made smaller. On the one = hand your fingers are required to be a bit <BR>stronger... on the other they = are required to be able to exert greater <BR>sensitivty to control the = increased response.<BR><BR>Its kinda like hitting a baseball.... a slow pitch = is easy to get your <BR>bat on... but a fast ball... On the other hand.... = once you get your bat <BR>on the ball it will generally fly farther..... = which direction it flys <BR>is another matter entirely.<BR><BR>Cheers<BR>RicB<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>><BR>> = */Nichols <NICHO@ZIANET.COM>/* wrote:<BR>><BR>> The super low friction = touch is going to get liked because the<BR>> upweight<BR>> feels so = much more like the practice digital in the dorm that<BR>> they've = been<BR>> listening to through headphones.( So what if the dynamic range = is<BR>> about the<BR>> same.) Those keys really "pop"!<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Ryan Sowe! rs, RPT Puget = Sound Chapter<BR>> Pianova Piano Service<BR>> Olympia, = WA<BR>><BR>> = ------------------------------------------------------------------------<= BR>> Do you Yahoo!?<BR>> Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! = Enter now <BR>> <HTTP: us.rd.yahoo.com evt="26640/*http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush">. = <BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>pianotech = list info: = https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Rya= n Sowers, RPT Puget Sound Chapter<BR>Pianova Piano Service<BR>Olympia, = WA <P> <HR SIZE=1> Do you Yahoo!?<BR>Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! <A = href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=26640/*http://promotions.yahoo.com/g= oldrush">Enter now</A>.</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>