<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C4D7A0.93E64F20"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue = style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> The Cybertuner does have the best pitch raise function, in my opinion.  The VT is next best and the = SATIII is functional but must be recalc’d every = so many notes.  The Cybertuner calculates the overpull based on a trailing = average of 5 notes, I believe.  Each section does vary in terms of % overpull and I would = be curious to know what the default settings are.  If the goal is to end up at = A440 within a reasonable number of passes (like 2), overpull is necessary.  = <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> David Love <st1:PersonName>davidlovepianos@comcast.net</f= ont></st1:PersonName> = <o:p></o:p> </div> -----Origi= nal Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Hechler Family Sent: Wednesday, December = 01, 2004 9:32 AM To: = <st1:PersonName>ilvey@sbcglobal.net</st1:PersonName><font= size=2 color=black face=Tahoma>; <st1:PersonName>Pianotech<= /span></st1:PersonName> Subject: Re: Pitch = Raising Techniques <o:p> </o:p> David, That even sounds more archaic O:-)       I just let Cybertuner do the "thinking" (overpull calculation) = and can tune 99.99% of the time in one pass to A440 :-) Duaine David Ilvedson wrote: <o:p></o:p> Speaking of = archaic, I typically don't overpull at all.   1/2 step flat?   = Up to pitch.  2nd pass up to pitch and 3rd pass in the tenor and leave = where it lies.<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> David = I.<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> ----- = Original message ----------------------------------------> From: Joe Garrett <<a = href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>>= To: pianotech <<a = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>> Received: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 07:48:11 -0800 Subject: Re: Pitch Raising Techniques<o:p></o:p> David Love said: "15% overpull in the bass, 25% in = the midrange, 32% in the upper range. On small spinets, reduce the numbers by 5% each.   Do unisons = as you go."   David,<o:p></o:p> <div> I must take = exception to this technique! Although, it will work most of the time on most Olde = Uprights and Grands, there is always the exception. This technique is archaic, to = say the least. There are better ways. The 32% in the upper treble will most = likely get someone in a world of hurt! Most strings, in that area, are already at/above 50% of their breaking strength!!! You raise it another 32% and = strings will break, IMO. I've done some studying on the subject and wrote an = article for the PTJ, in Dec. 1999.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Regards,<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Joe = Garrett, R.P.T. Captain, Tool Police Squares R I<o:p></o:p> </div> <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> <pre style='margin-left:.5in'>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Duaine = Hechler<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Piano, Player Piano, Organ, Pump = Organ<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Tuning, Servicing & = Rebuilding<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Associate Member of the Piano Technicians = Guild<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Reed Organ Society = Member<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>St. Louis, MO = 63034<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>(314) = 838-5587<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><a = href="mailto:dahechler@charter.net">dahechler@charter.net</a><o:p></o:p= ></pre></div> </body> </html>