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<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">M...<BR><BR>Is this a studio or grand?<BR><BR>David I.<BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "William R. Monroe" <PIANOTECH@A440PIANO.NET><BR>To: "Pianotech" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:40 PM<BR>Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?<BR><BR><BR>> Matthew,<BR>><BR>> As I said before, I'd repin in this situation. I would also opt for <BR>> taking<BR>> it to the shop - depending on what kind of drive time you would face. It<BR>> certainly could be done in the home, but my experience is that these <BR>> things<BR>> often take more time than you expect, and further, especially as you are<BR>> getting the hang of the procedure, it might be nice to not have the client<BR>> looking over your shoulder.<BR>><BR>> I'd check each flange, repinning to get each one at a consistent swing<BR>> number. I
know some techs will opt for obtaining a specific level of<BR>> friction (6 grams, 7 grams, graduating, etc.). I don't know that either<BR>> method is superior to the other provided you understand the process and <BR>> what<BR>> each is telling you - e.g. 7 swings on a bass hammer will have more <BR>> friction<BR>> at the pinning than 7 swings on a treble hammer - all other things being<BR>> equal.<BR>><BR>> What is the make of the piano BTW? Curiosity..........<BR>><BR>> Respectfully,<BR>> William R. Monroe<BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Matthew Todd" <TODDPIANOWORKS@YAHOO.COM><BR>> To: "Pianotech" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:36 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?<BR>><BR>><BR>>> Some of the worst hammers there don't swing at all. About six of them <BR>>> are<BR>> that bad, and others have between one to two. There
are some others that<BR>> "seem" to be fine. I say "seem" because I tested their piano by playing <BR>> it<BR>> first, finding the really bad ones, then taking the action out and really<BR>> examining them to pinpoint the problem.<BR>>><BR>>> Matthew<BR>>> "William R. Monroe" <PIANOTECH@A440PIANO.NET>wrote:<BR>>> Hi Matthew,<BR>>><BR>>> You wrote: "Could this just be related to swelling?"<BR>>><BR>>> Only you can tell us. Is it humid there now? Does it get dry in the<BR>>> winter, and then, are the hammer centers more free? You'll need to do <BR>>> some<BR>>> analyzing yourself and determine what is your best solution. If the<BR>> hammers<BR>>> are really seized up (less than a couple swings), I'd be comfortable<BR>> saying<BR>>> that it's not just humidity, and opt for repinning. Of course, if the<BR>>> bushings are all full of nastys, maybe needs new
bushings?<BR>>><BR>>> Once you've determined the cause of the problem, then determine the<BR>> solution<BR>>> that works for you and your client.<BR>>><BR>>> Respectfully,<BR>>> William R. Monroe<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>>> From: "Matthew Todd"<BR>>> To: "Pianotech"<BR>>><BR>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:20 PM<BR>>> Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> > I believe I will take the action home with me. These are hammer <BR>>> > centers.<BR>>> The hammers are very tight to move! Could this just be related to<BR>> swelling?<BR>>> ><BR>>> > This is not a Steinway. I don't believe I have the Mannino, but I do<BR>> have<BR>>> a set I ordered from Schaff, and a good center pin punch.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Matthew<BR>>> ><BR>>>
> J Patrick Draine wrote:<BR>>> > Matthew,<BR>>> > If you are already skilled & speedy at repinning action parts, go for<BR>>> > it. But it sounds like you aren't so ... bring the action to your<BR>>> > shop. It will probably take you more than 4 hours (are these hammer<BR>>> > centers? jack centers? damper lever centers??).<BR>>> > Why are you repinning? Parts frozen up? Are treatment with Protec<BR>>> > CPL, or sizing the bushings with an alcohol/water solution, viable<BR>>> > alternative solutions?<BR>>> > Is this a Steinway?? If so, it's likely you're dealing with<BR>>> > verdigris, and repinning is seldom the correct remedy (parts<BR>>> > replacement is best).<BR>>> > Give us more details and we'll be able to give more precise advice.<BR>>> > Do you have appropriate tools? The Mannino broaches, a quality center<BR>>> > pin punch, etc?<BR>>>
> Patrick Draine<BR>>> ><BR>>> > On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Matthew Todd wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> > > I will be undergoing a repinning project on a client's grand. The<BR>>> > > "G" Piano Works guide says it takes 4 hours. Is it appropiate to<BR>>> > > do this project in the client's home, or do I need to take the<BR>>> > > action with me and do it in the shop? If I take the action with<BR>>> > > me, that brings up another question. If it's raining, how do you<BR>>> > > all prepare and protect the grand action??<BR>>> > _______________________________________________<BR>>> > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> > ---------------------------------<BR>>> > Yahoo! for Good<BR>>> > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief
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