<HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 == "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;= charset=US-ASCII"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Generator> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK= href="cid:filelist.xml@01C4FA06.72871660"= rel=File-List><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName"= namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:Sm= artTagType> <STYLE> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </STYLE> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US id=role_body style="tab-interval: .5in"= bottomMargin=7 vLink=purple link=blue leftMargin=7 topMargin=7= rightMargin=7> <P>Dave Stahl,</P> <P>First of all we have enough Dave's up here already and= what the heck are you doing in our= territory?....;-]   </P> <P>I do just the opposite as David L.   I've only= installed one DC in 30 years.   I'm obviously missing= a lot of income.   I don't see a big change in pitch= on my customers pianos, so those two you're working on must be= my customers...</P> <P>David I.<BR><BR><BR><BR></P> <DIV style="PADDING-RIGHT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;= PADDING-BOTTOM: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 3px solid;= PADDING-TOP: 5px"> <HR> Original message<BR>From: David Love= <DAVIDLOVEPIANOS@COMCAST.NET><BR>To: 'Pianotech'= <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Received: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:58:27= -0800<BR>Subject: RE: Dampp-Chasers and Piano Tuning/attn. SF= techs<BR><BR> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal align=left><FONT id=role_document face=Arial= color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy;= FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Humidity is at it’s lowest in SF at the= moment. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN= class=GramE>Very cold air, heating on, no fog.</SPAN><SPAN= style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>If you come back in June= it’s likely that the humidity will be over 70% and the pianos= will have gone sharp.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> = </SPAN>That being said, some houses are able to maintain lower= indoor levels.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> = </SPAN>Nevertheless, I always recommend a DC for most SF= customers.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:= Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN= style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; mso-no-proof: yes">David= Love<BR></SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName><FONT color=navy= size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; mso-no-proof:= yes">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><= FONT color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy;= mso-no-proof: yes"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma= size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:= Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN= style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>= pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]= <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of= </SPAN></B>Piannaman@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:= bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, January 14, 2005 6:42= AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>= pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:= bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Dampp-Chasers and Piano= Tuning/attn. SF techs</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times= New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:= 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">I've got a Dampp-Chaser question for techs= who work in San Francisco a fair amount.  Davids Love and= Ilvedson come to mind readily. = <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">San Fancisco is a notoriously foggy area,= with year round humidity and cool air.  "The coldest winter= I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco," Mark Twain once= said.  I have several clients there.  I was there= yesterday, around seven months after the previous tunings for= the two customers I visited, fully ready to install heater= bar/humidistat combinations in each of the two small Korean= grands.  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Much to my surprise, both pianos were= right at pitch, and unisons were fairly solid in both. = Humidity in the houses was around 50-55% in both= cases.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">My question is this:  once the piano= has acclimatized to SF, will the tuning remain stable without= climate control?  There is certainly less variation in= climate there than there is in the South Bay, where it gets both= colder in the winter and hotter and drier in the= summer.  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">It seems to me, I need to continue to= monitor regulation, centers, and string condition.  One of= the pianos came from Denver about 3 years ago, and since they= arrived, the hammers lifted about 3/4" off the rail. = <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">I'm curious about the experiences in these= matters of techs who spend alot of time in= SF.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Thanks! = <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana= color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black;= FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Dave= Stahl<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTM= L>