<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 9"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 9"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C41247.C4409000">  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> Jo= hn,<o:p></o:p> <!= [if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> So= me questions<o:p></o:p> <!= [if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> I = presume you used thin variety that was not = old.<o:p></o:p> Wh= en you say a lot, how much in oz?<o:p></o:p> Wh= at brand did you use?<o:p></o:p> Di= d you use accelerator?<o:p></o:p> Ho= w much time did you allow to elapse before you tried = it?<o:p></o:p> Ha= ve you been back for a follow up to see if there is any = improvement?<o:p></o:p> Wa= s it only a handful of pins that continued to cause = problems?<o:p></o:p> <!= [if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> I = have never encountered a piano as you describe that did not show major = improvement after treatment. In fact one grand that was particularly bad in my early = days of doing this, I applied top and bottom with 4-6 oz as you describe. The = pins grew so tight you could barely turn them, but it took a few days. When = you apply a lot of glue it takes a few days for it to fully cure. = <o:p></o:p> <!= [if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> Bl= essings<o:p></o:p> Dean<o:p></o:p><= /font> <![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></= p> Dean May             cell = 812.239.3359<o:p></o:p></= p> PianoRebuilders.com   = 812.235.5272<o:p></o:p></= p> Terre Haute IN  47802<o:p></o:p> <= span class=EmailStyle15><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> -----Original Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On = Behalf Of John M. Formsma Sent: Thursday, March 25, = 2004 7:35 AM To: Pianotech Subject: RE: loose loose = tuning pins <![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> Julia,</fo= nt><o:p></o:p><= /p>  <o:p></o:p><= /p> I've had a piano = that did not respond to two treatments. It holds barely, but not well enough for = fine tuning. In fact, on this small grand, I had tipped the piano upside down = to apply a LOT of CA to the underside of the block. It was disappointing to = find out that when the piano was upright again it hadn't worked, although = another application from the top helped a tiny bit.<o:p></o:p><= /p>  <o:p></o:p><= /p> I always tell = the customer that CA might not work. <o:p></o:p><= /p>  <o:p></o:p><= /p> Repinning is = needed when you have loose pins, and there is enough money to pay your labor. :-) = But, always educate the customer about rebuilding and better performance the = piano will have.<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p><= /p> You can keep the = old wire when restringing, but it's just as easy to replace with = new.<o:p></o:p><= /p>  <o:p></o:p><= /p> John = Formsma<o:p></o:p><= /p>  <o:p></o:p><= /p>  <o:p></o:p><= /p> <div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in = 0in 4.0pt'> <p class=MsoNormal = style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue = 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>-----Original Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On = Behalf Of Alpha88x@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March = 24, 2004 6:50 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: loose loose = tuning pins<o:p></o:p><= /p> <p class=MsoNormal = style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:= auto;margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid blue = 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>Greetings.              = How tight can CA glue make really loose tuning pins? Is there a limitation to it's effectiveness. I would = think if they are really loose, (so loose that you can actually see a tuning = hammer ride back as fast as the sweep second hand of a watch!) that maybe 4 = treatments on those pins might do the trick, but I don't know. Any suggestions? = What sanctions a repinning job? If one does re-pin a piano must all the = strings be replaced with new ones or can you re-string the old back on? Julia Gottchall Reading, PA <o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </body> </html>