<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>I had a couple of thoughts about the article.  1> it made us look like untrained buffoons.  24 hours of training gets you a job.  2> The aural tuner interviewed had all the classic wrong assumptions about technicians who use ETDs -- can't tune aurally etc.  Why some people think that just because we bought and use a particular tool, that we regularly leave our ears on the kitchen table is beyond me.  I hope the aural tuner they interviewed was not a PTG member because he violated the PTG's code of ethics pretty badly.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>dave *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 7/17/2003 at 9:58 AM Piannaman@aol.com wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid">David, Thanks for the reprint.  Seems as though the author is trying to make create more conflict than actually exists.  And it's always nice to find that people think of us as geeks and loners....:-} As far as the ETD debate goes, the modern devices are pretty amazing, but to me, the bottom line is this:  how does the piano SOUND?  If one doesn't know anything about aural tuning, how can you even gauge what kind of a job your ETD has helped you do?  The ear has the final say, doesn't it?   Dave Stahl In a message dated 7/17/03 5:43:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dm.porritt@verizon.net writes: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  *********** On 7/17/2003 at 8:29 AM Clyde Hollinger wrote: >Not true.  With RCT you can customize the stretch, and the same may be >true of >some other ETDs (electronic tuning devices) as well.  It seems to me that >the >hard part would be figuring out how much stretch a particular performer >wants. BUT ONCE YOU DO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH STRETCH A PERFORMAER WANTS YOU CAN DUPLICATE IT NEXT TIME EXACTLY. dave > >Regards, >Clyde Hollinger, RPT > >David Love wrote: > >> Here's the text for those who don't want to register. <BIG></BLOCKQUOTE><BIG><BIG> ></BIG></BIG> </BIG></BLOCKQUOTE>**************** END MESSAGE FROM Piannaman@aol.com ********************* </BODY></HTML> <PRE> _____________________________ David M. Porritt dporritt@mail.smu.edu Meadows School of the Arts Southern Methodist University Dallas, TX 75275 _____________________________</PRE>