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color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I =
thought
I was wrong once, but I made a =
mistake.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle17><font size=2 =
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riously,
I find I don&#8217;t have these kinds of problems after 25 years of =
doing this, so it
must have something to do with experience and confidence. But there are
definitely things you can do.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle17><font size=2 =
color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><!=
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color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Fi=
rst,
maybe you should raise your rates. When you work for cheap, you get =
clients who
are cheap and hard to please.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ne=
xt, head
off trouble at the pass when you are scheduling the appointment. My =
secretary
always explains to new customers that if the piano is real bad and it =
has been
awhile since it has been tuned, it might be up to double my normal =
tuning rate.
So when I get to the home and start working on the piano, I don&#8217;t =
even talk
about price. It has already been discussed so there are no surprises =
when it
comes time to collect the money and no problems, either. Sometimes she =
forgets and
when she does I frequently get punished. Then I re-emphasize the =
importance of
this step to her and no more problems. So I know this step works well. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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[if =
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color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Yo=
u really
should get RCT for pitch raises. The extra money you charge for the PR =
will
quickly pay for it and it does provide the quickest and most stable PR =
tuning. And
rarely do I break strings, maybe one every 4-6 =
months.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Wh=
en I
leave I after a PR I always say, &#8220;Now this tuning is not going to =
be as stable
as a normal tuning. When pianos get this bad it is impossible to put a =
stable
tuning on it- that is why it is so important to keep a piano tuned =
regularly.
It really should be retuned within 6 months, but you might want it done =
in 3 to
4 months, maybe even sooner. Let your ear be your guide.&#8221; If you =
had said
something like that to your customer you would be =
set.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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color=navy face=Arial><span
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[if =
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color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A =
big part
of your problem is your uncertainty about if it is the piano&#8217;s =
problem or if
you are just a bad tuner. Been there, done that. And that uncertainty is
somehow magically communicated to the customer. If you use RCT you can =
be
confident that you are using an industry wide accepted standard of the =
one of
the best ways to do a PR. <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On =
Behalf
Of </span></b>Richard Oliver Snelson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, December =
13, 2004
11:24 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Pianotech<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Subject: =
Help with
&quot;bad&quot; tuning...need help</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 =
color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Kurt, These
thing are fine if you have experience to back them up. That not what I =
read in
his message. It is never that simple. </span></font><font size=2 =
color=black
face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>(You
are right, they are wrong, it's that simple, and never forget it.)&nbsp; =
This
can make a hell of a fool out of you someday! You can be wrong! Being to
stubborn to admit it is not the answer. Rich</span></font><font =
color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 =
color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Richard
Oliver Snelson</span></font><font color=black><span =
style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color=black
face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----
Original Message ----- </span></font><font size=2 color=black =
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:win=
dowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color=black
face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>

<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 =
color=black
face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:KurtGearheart@comcast.net" =
title="KurtGearheart@comcast.net">Kurt</a>
</span></font></div>

<font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>=


<p class=MsoNormal =
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 =
color=black
face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black =
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" =
title="pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>
</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span=
></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal =
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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color=black
face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black =
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Monday, =
December 13,
2004 8:17 PM</span></font><font size=2 color=black =
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:win=
dowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal =
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 =
color=black
face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>
Subject: Help with &quot;bad&quot; tuning...need help</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if =
!supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]></span></font><font
color=black><span =
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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<p class=MsoNormal =
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&quot;</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>So, what do I do now? &quot;<br>
<br>
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ACCEPT BLAME FOR THE LAWS OF PHYSICS!!!<br>
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES GIVE REFUNDS FOR GOOD HONEST WORK FAIRLY =
PRICED!!!<br>
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOW WEAKNESS, FEAR, INDECISION, OR GUILT!!!<br>
YOU WILL BE EATEN ALIVE IF YOU DO!!!<br>
<br>
Be blunt when you talk next. <br>
You know, they do not.<br>
You understand, they do not.<br>
Explain however much you need to, UNTIL...<br>
It is clear they don't get it.<br>
THEN...<br>
Lose a customer, (not much worth having in the first place), and keep =
your
dignity and professional demeanor.<br>
<br>
You are right, they are wrong, it's that simple, and never forget =
it.<br>
<br>
Any experienced tuner has run across this situation in their career... =
until
they learn to emphatically &quot;pre-explain&quot; reality BEFORE the =
tuning
begins.<br>
Be confident when you explain things. Your word must be law. They learn =
from
you.<br>
The laws of physics as they apply to tuning is NOT UP FOR DEBATE BY =
THEM.<br>
<br>
If I were a seasoned tuner in your area and heard this story, (and I was =
a
decent and knowledgeable chap), I'd instantly be on your side as soon as =
I
heard the real technical details. <br>
<br>
You have to be absolutely firm and confident when you predict piano =
behavior
BEFORE YOU START TUNING.<br>
<br>
IGNORANT CLIENTS CAN BE TRAINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br>
<br>
;0)<br>
<br>
That's the real solution for the future, which is what matters more than
surviving the current (not too desirable in the first place) client.<br>
<br>
You are &quot;da piano god&quot; when in someones home, but ya gotta =
believe
it, act like it, and speak like it.<br>
<br>
My two cents after 25 years at this.<br>
<br>
DO NOT RETUNE THIS PIANO FOR FREE!!!<br>
<br>
(Just to make you feel better, 23 years ago or so I replaced half a set =
of bass
strings that broke during a tuning of a 120 year old birdcage, at my =
expense...
stupid thing to do (several things actually - he he...) ... the client =
was
livid and irrational and it seemed the easiest way out... in retrospect =
I
should have stuck to my guns... and had them restring the bass at THEIR =
expense
- or just gotten another tech to deal with them)</span></font><font
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