<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>I believe the correct spread dimension is 113.5 for = that piano.  But that is only part of the equation.  If you feel = the relationship between the dip and blow distances is not correct, you will = have to examine the action ratio overall.  Remember that one way to define = the action ratio is by that relationship:  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Action ratio is equal to </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>blow distance - letoff </DIV> <DIV>key dip - after touch </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Or, more simply, the relationship between key travel = and hammer travel.  This relationship has also been expressed in = terms of weight by the Stanwood formula.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The point is that an action with a given action = ratio and a targeted blow distance will have to be set up with a corresponding dip.  If you want to alter the dip, you will have to = alter either the action ratio or the blow distance.  I believe the = action ratio on the Bechstein is designed to be 5.75.  This should give = you approximately 47 mm blow with 10 mm dip.  If in fact there is too = much aftertouch at 9.5 mm dip, then it appears that the action ratio is = somewhat higher than that.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The action ratio can be altered by changing the = spread, moving the capstan, or moving the knuckle.  In this case, since you presumably don't want to move the capstan or knuckle, one alternative is to alter the spread.    </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>By increasing the spread you will lower the action ratio.  A lower action ratio will mean that the piano will require = deeper dip.  Or, in your case, you will have less aftertouch.   = Before doing this, you will have to make sure that altering the spread doesn't = create other problems especially in terms of jack/knuckle alignment.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The other alternative is to reduce the blow = distance.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A more precise measurement of the action ratio will = give you a better idea of what options you might pursue.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>David Love</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>From: "Isaac OLEG" <<A href="mailto:oleg-i@wanadoo.fr">oleg-i@wanadoo.fr</A>></DIV> <DIV>To: "Pianotech" <<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>></DIV> <DIV>Sent: September 15, 2002 1:06 PM</DIV> <DIV>Subject: Bechstein grand spread = dimension,</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>dear = listers, Do someone have an idea of the spread dimension on grand Bechstein mod C (2M) . = I service one that shows a 113.5 mm spread and I feel it is compressed = yet, with too much after touch even at 47mm blow 9.5 = mm dip. Because of the 9mm hammers regulation is of course more sensitive, but I'd = appreciate the info without having to ask Bechstein and pay a $50 fee for this = simple question. The whippen rail is not shimmed or stopped by nothing but = screws, so it could possibly have moved a very little (a few tenths of mm may = be). "standard" regulation dimension could be useful = too. Thanks in advance. Regards. Isaac OLEG > = -----Message d'origine----- > De : <A href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A> > [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la > part de gordon = stelter > Envoye : dimanche 15 septembre 2002 21:31 > A : Pianotech > = Objet : Re: OT - Florida Update > > > Which is exactly why you = should SEE Ruppert's site, > and THEN respond with sarcastic quips and = such (if you > still feel like it )!!!  Ruppert ONLY publishes > = previously published materials ( from the Wall Street > Journal, = NY Times, foreign newspapers, etc.. ) and > lets us connect the very = obvious, and usually > factually demonstrable dots. >      So please READ copvcia.com, = and THEN come back > and ridicule me to your heart's content, if you = still > feel so inclined!!!  But I'll bet you won't.  He's > = formidably informed, internationally respected and no > "run-of-the-mill = conspiracy crackpot"! >      And if you won't read = his site before dismissing > it, I can give no credence to your statements = as they > obviously lack sincerity. > >      Sincerely, >      gordon Stelter > > > --- David Love <<A href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net">davidlovepianos@earthlink.net</A>> = wrote: > > Conspiracy theories make good internet fodder, but > > = don't believe everything > > you think. > > ] > > = David Love > > > > > > > > ----- Original = Message ----- > > From: "gordon stelter" <<A href="mailto:lclgcnp@yahoo.com">lclgcnp@yahoo.com</A>> > > To: "Pianotech" <<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>> > > Sent: September 15, 2002 10:41 AM > = > Subject: Re: OT - Florida Update > > > > > > Dear = Fellow Techs, > >      Bush's incendiary = diatribes against Saddam > > Hussein are nothing more than continued = attempts to > > deflect public attention from his own sins = regarding > > 9-11. Bush had VERY SPECIFIC warnings about an > > = imminent Al Quaeda attack,  from the intelligence > > services of a = half dozen of our allies!!! But > > heeding > > them would not = have furthered his agenda of invading > > Afghanistan and replacing = the Afghan government, so > > that he could get the Trans Asia = Pipeline ( in which > > he and Cheney are heavily invested ) up and running! > > He needed an excuse. And 9-11 provided it. > = >      One of my favorite websites is = <A href="http://www.copvcia.com">www.copvcia.com</A>. > > It is run by Mike Ruppert, an highly respected LAPD > > narcotics detective who caught his fiancee = smuggling > > narcotics for the CIA ( under Bush senior ) in 1977. > > = It is full of Bush-family "fun facts" such as: > > 1) Grandfather = Prescott's extensive business > > dealings > > with Adolph = Hitler, 1923-1943. ( Prescott had his > > businesses seized by Congress = under the "Doing > > Business With The Enemy" act in 1943! 2 years after > > we > > entered WWII, Prescott was still = helping Hitler make > > explosives and nerve gas. ( This is undeniable, = as > > it > > is part of the Congressional = Record.)  2) The "Iran > > Contra Affair", during which the CIA = smuggled > > massive > > quantities of narcotics into the US ( I have = a > > tuning > > customer, a Marine who did White House guard duty > > for > > Reagan under Ollie North, who has = admitted this one > > to > > me personally.) Read "Dark = Alliance" Gary Webb's > > great > > book on the subject.  No = author or publisher of any > > book on "iran Contra" has ever been sued = for libel! > > 3)Our current "President"'s extensive, 20 = year > > dealings with the Bin Laden family, and the events > > leading = to 9-11 which PROVE Bush knew it was coming, > > and intentionally did NOTHING!!! ( If not, in fact, > > aggravate the possibility, as = did Roosevelt with the > > Japanese before Pearl Harbor.) > >      Mike Ruppert is no nut!!!  If = his website > > somehow > > doesn't convince you, it = becomes quite evident when > > you see him speak! He is an increasingly popular > > speaker on campuses, radio, elsewhere and = his > > newsletter is subscribed to by at least 20 members > > = of > > Congress. He recently opened the National Press Club > > = luncheon for the families of 9-11 fatalities, and it > > was the first = National Press Club luncheon that > > C-Span > > refused to = televise in 10 years!!! > >      I believe Bush = would start WWIII just to > > prevent > > these facts from = becoming part of permanent written > > history! > > > >      Go to copvcia.com and read = for > > yourselves!!!!!!!!! > >      You will = be astounded. > > > >      A = True Patriot > >      Gordon = Stelter > > > > > > > > > > > > = --- David Andersen <<A href="mailto:bigda@gte.net">bigda@gte.net</A>> wrote: > > = > >Heres a thought... if it is truly so desirable to > > > = "take out" Sadam.... you > > > >only > > > >need = one man, not an army. > > > > > > Absolutely.  = I've been saying the same thing for > > > years.  Between = the US > > > "special ops," the Israeli Mossad, and the = British > > > MI5, I would think > > > terminating that dude = with extreme prejudice would > > > be eminently doable. > = > > And if it's not....what the HELL are all that > > money > = > > and training and > > > those intelligence resources = good for, anyway? > > > > > > The problem is, who comes = next, and can we be > > > assured it will be any > > > different? > > > > > > You can bet your bottom = dollar that the leaders of > > > Congress are demanding > = > > hard, and I mean HARD evidence, current evidence, > > > = picture and artifact > > > evidence, of Iraqui weapons of mass destruction > > > before they'll sign off > > > = on spending massive blood and treasure to get this > > > = guy. > > > > > > Question:  is Saddam suicidal? If he = launched a > > > strike against Israel or > > > Turkey, = or anyone, with nuclear, biological, or > > > chemical weapons, = he > > > would be sealing his own imminent, immediate = doom. > > > That is > > > incontrovertible. A slam dunk. No question.  Are > > ya > > > feelin' > = > > lucky......punk? > > > > > > I don't think = that's gonna happen. > > > > > > David A. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > = pianotech list info: > > <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A> <FON= T size=2>> > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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