<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas:contacts" = xmlns:st2="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C339D0.EDC1FCC0"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas:contacts" = name="middlename"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="time"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="date"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas:contacts" name="Sn"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas:contacts" = name="GivenName"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple = style='tab-interval:.5in' stationery_tag_mark> <div class=Section1> Does the warning earlier on the list about crank = coilers apply to the Sciortino Insta-coiler?<o:p></o:p> Thanks from someone who will always read the subject = line “Pretty Darn Frequently”<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <st1:GivenName>Harry</st1:GivenName><o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> -----Original Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of <st2:PersonName><st1:GivenName>Richard</st1:GivenName> <st1:Sn>Strang</st1:Sn></st2:PersonName> Sent: = <st2:date Month="6" Day="23" Year="2003">Monday, June 23, 2003</st2:date> <st2:time Hour="20" Minute="1">8:01 PM</st2:time> To: 'Pianotech' Subject: RE: = Restringing <o:p> </o:p> <div> I learned how to = make a pretty nice loop using  a pair of vise grips and a screw driver. I = make a loop and clamp it with the vise grips, lightly of course, then stick the = screw drive through the loop and twist 6 or 7 times. Comes out just fine for = some of the clunkers I work on.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <st1:GivenName>Richard</st1:GivenName><o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote = style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> -----Original Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On = Behalf Of <st2:PersonName><st1:GivenName>Dave</st1:GivenName> <st1:Sn>Bunch</st1:Sn></st2:PersonName> Sent: = <st2:date Month="6" Day="23" Year="2003">Monday, June 23, 2003</st2:date> <st2:time Hour="18" Minute="36">6:36 PM</st2:time> To: = <st1:GivenName>Pianotech</st1:GivenName> Subject: Re: = Restringing<o:p></o:p> <div> As far as loop makers go, I would warn someone new to this to avoid the = loop makers with the crank commonly seen in the catalogs. They are good for = nothing but breaking wire. With just a little practice, one can make a first = rate loop by hand using nothing more than a nail in a vise. This will work fine = for the 99% of pianos that have just one or two looped = strings.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <st2:PersonName><st1:GivenName>Dave</st1:GivenName> <st1:Sn>Bunch</st1:Sn></st2:PersonName><o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'= > <div> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p> </div> <div style='font-color:black'> From: <a href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net" title="tune4u@earthlink.net">Alan</a> <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" = title="pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech'</a> = <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Sent: <st2:date Month="6" Day="23" Year="2003">Monday, June 23, 2003</st2:date> <st2:time Hour="11" Minute="28">11:28 AM</st2:time><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Subject: RE: Restringing<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> Yes = ...<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= Not a complete = treatise, but a few thoughts.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= First time, it = will take you close to three 8-days.<o:p></o:p> An experienced = person can do it in about two days.<o:p></o:p> I don't think = it's fair for people to pay for my "learning curves," so I would bill = the job based on, say, 18 hours.<o:p></o:p> Take the job. = Learn and earn.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= Critical things = to have, purchase, or make-your-own ...<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= <![if !supportLists]>1.       <![endif]>A pinblock jack<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>2.       <![endif]>Coil maker<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>3.       <![endif]>2� lb sledge hammer (for fine tuning and watch = repair)<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>4.       <![endif]>Real wire cutters, not pin nippers or light duty electrical = "dikes"<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>5.       <![endif]>Heavy gloves or, better yet, glass-handler's = gloves<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>6.       <![endif]>Eye protection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Many jobs = call for eye protection: Restringing SCREAMS for it. Wear industrial eye = protection, the kind that protects from the sides, = too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>7.       <![endif]>Band-Aids (Don't make your own.)<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= Helpful things = to have ...<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= <![if !supportLists]>1.       <![endif]>A �" drive variable speed electric drill with "pin removing = bit" (see archives). �" drill will not do, doesn't have enough torque, especially at slower speeds and you don't want to spin the pins so fast = that you set the piano on fire or, more likely, damage the = holes.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>2.       <![endif]>New set of pin collars (depending). New hitch pin punchings, felts, braid, etc. (depending)<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>3.       <![endif]>Tuning pin crank<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>4.       <![endif]><st2:place>Loop</st2:place> = maker<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= Look up in the = archives or read Reblitz, etc., about measuring strings, marking where string = sizes change, etc.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= Examine the = piano carefully before you start: <o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>1.       <![endif]>Make sure the legs are secure and nothing is wobbly. 999/1000 times this is = no problem. The 1/1000th time, a disaster can = ensue.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>2.       <![endif]>Pull the lid hinge pins with the lid closed. Unless it is a very small piano, get = the owner or someone to help you lift off the lid and put it in a safe = place.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>3.       <![endif]>Examine the pinblock and bridges very carefully. Discuss problems with owner. = NOW is the time to make any repairs.<o:p></o:p> <![if !supportLists]>4.       <![endif]>Note any problems or anticipated problems. Write them down. Have the owner look = at them with you and sign the paper acknowledging the problems. Again 1/1000, = but you don't want any arguments later. I would take a torque wrench and measure = each pin-or at least a good sampling-as I made the first tension reduction = turns of the pin to make sure you spot any "patterns" suggesting block = damage or any pin holes that might need a little epoxy, etc. Easier to do it = now than to have to remove pins later.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= Have fun. = <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>= <div> <st2:PersonName><st1:GivenName>Alan</st1:GivenName> <st1:middlename>R.</st1:middlename> <st1:Sn>Barnard</st1:Sn></st2:PersonName><o:p></o:p> <st2:place><st2:City>Salem</st2:City>, <st2:State>MO</st2:State></st2:place><o:p= ></o:p> </div> -----Original = Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of <st2:PersonName><st1:GivenName>Richard</st1:= GivenName> = <st1:Sn>Strang</st1:S= n></st2:PersonName> Sent: = <st2:date Month="6" Day="23" Year="2003">Monday, June 23, = 2003</st2:date> <st2:time Hour="10" Minute="14">10:14 AM</st2:time> To: = <st1:GivenName>pianotech</st= 1:GivenName> (E-mail) Subject: = Restringing<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Hello, all,<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>   &nbs= p; Piano restringing has always been a little out of my line of work, as I = do not have a shop. However, I have a good customer that is requesting me to = restring his grand on site, and I'm debating on whether I should accept the job = or not. Any advice?<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <st1:GivenName>Richard</st1:GivenName><o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: = <st2:date Month="6" Day="10" Year="2003">6/10/2003</st2:date><o:p></o:p><= /p> <o:p> </o:p> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: = <st2:date Month="6" Day="10" Year="2003">6/10/2003</st2:date><o:p></o:p><= /p> </blockquote> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>