<HTML>In a message dated 10/22/02 9:41:12 PM Central Daylight Time, mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">When drilling tuning pin holes in new block in a full plate with no plate bushings, how best to center pin? </BLOCKQUOTE> If you are either drilling the block in the piano, or outside the piano, drill a dimple first with a drill bit the same size as the tuning pin hole. This will then allow the bit for tuning pin to find the center of the hole. By the time the pin "bends" with tension, it will not touch the front, nor the back. Wim </HTML>