<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>Like David Stanwood has suggested, I have gotten = into the habit of specifying my hammerweight goal with the manufacturer (using = number 16, 40 and 64) and let them pick a set that will get me there without = turning the hammers into dust.  A good supplier will be able to weigh some = samples and get the right set to you.  Renner, Abel (Brooks), Ronsen and = Isaac all seem to be able to do that.  Steinway is not as easy but you can = specify that they preinspect the set and be sure not to send one that is too = bulky if that is your concern.  You might get lucky.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>David Love  </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianobuilders@olynet.com href="mailto:pianobuilders@olynet.com">Delwin D Fandrich</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> October 21, 2001 3:30 = PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Speaking of = hammers...</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ANRPiano@AOL.COM href="mailto:ANRPiano@AOL.COM">ANRPiano@AOL.COM</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> October 21, 2001 5:57 = AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Speaking of hammers...</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 = face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 10/16/2001 10:48:57 AM = Central Daylight Time, <A = href="mailto:pianobuilders@olynet.com">pianobuilders@olynet.com</A> = writes: <BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face="Lucida Sans" = color=#000080 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff = 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">As a start perhaps the manufacturer could weigh just = those hammers he intends to be #1, #30, #60 and #88 and correlate those = into Stanwood's curves. If the manufacturing tolerances are reasonable = random samples might well be sufficient. At this point, I'd be really = happy with just that. Though we'd still be some distance from ideal at least = it would be one small step in the right direction. </FONT><FONT lang=0 face="Lucida Sans" color=#000000 size=3 = FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 = FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Would these be pretapered, coved, what = about the tail?  I am afraid there are too many variables to do anything = here however great the need.  While those here in this discussion = may be willing to pay a little extra for their hammers if this information = were made available, I fear the demand would not be large enough for the manufactures to bother with. </DIV> <HR> </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial = color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial = color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT face="Lucida Sans" color=#000080 = size=3>There are always good reasons for doing nothing. Still, I should think if we all = thought about this a bit we could come up with a couple of simple standards = that would tell us a whole lot more than 14 pound or 16 pound does. </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080>I don't see why this should cost any more = than saying, "you're getting 16# hammers." Given reasonable production = controls there shouldn't be all that much difference from one set to the next = in a given hammer design. So, what is the design standard? Not all that = difficult once there is agreement on the standard we're after. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080>With all the other committee's PTG has = going that really have nothing at all to do with the piano, perhaps one or two = that could actually make our work lives easier might be in order. How about one = on "Replacement Parts Standards?"</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080>Del</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial = color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT face="Lucida Sans" color=#000080 size=3></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial = color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT face="Lucida Sans" color=#000080 size=3></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>