<DIV>I see your guys point on this.  Is there harm in installing the whole system in Florida anyhow?  I guess you don't need to install the whole system if you know for sure that your clients plan to live in Florida the rest of their lives.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Matthew Avery Todd <avery@ev1.net> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">At 10:36 AM 9/19/04, you wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">Piano's environment???  You mean to say that your clients pianos never drop below 42% relative humidity?  Do your clients keep their pianos on their front porch?  If not, then a complete Dampp-Chaser is necessary.</BLOCKQUOTE> Not in a climate like Houston. OR Florida! :-) Avery <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">Matthew Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: <DL> <DD>Unless of course relative humidity levels in the piano's environment never drop below 40% RH. Under such conditions, why on earth would you install a humidifier? Such are the conditions here in central Florida. My car is properly outfitted - even though I don't put snow tires on it in the winter - right? <DD>   <DD>Terry Farrell <DL> <DD>----- Original Message ----- <DD>From: <A href="mailto:pianotech88@yahoo.com">Matthew Todd</A> <DD>To: <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> <DD>Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:34 PM <DD>Subject: Re: Dampp-Chaser sold on the internet (cheap)! <DD>Basic upright system?  I hope we all realize the importance of the COMPLETE Dampp-Chaser system.  Otherwise it cannot do it's job properly. <DD>   <DD>By the way, didn't Dampp-Chaser raise it's prices currently?? <DD>   <DD>Matthew <DD>Ryan Sowers <<A href="mailto:pianorye@yahoo.com">pianorye@yahoo.com</A>> wrote: <DL> <DD>Tell the client that it really isn't any great deal. <DD>   <DD> I buy Dampp-chaser 3 packs from Schaff for $178.50. Divided by three that's about $60 per piano. Double the price for your retail mark-up and that's $120. I charge a half hour labor to put in a basic upright system (50 watt rod + humidistat). <DD>   <DD>However, now that I am sold on the value of the back covers I'll have to add an appropriate amount to the installation fee. <DD>Clyde Allen <tunepiano1@yahoo.com> wrote: <DL> <DD>I recently received a call from a prospective customer <DD>who claimed he could buy a Dampp-Chaser humidistat for <DD>$77 and a dehumidifying rod for $48 on the internet. A <DD>complete systen for a vertical piano is $270 and for a <DD>grand is $326. He sent me the link. When I followed <DD>the link and clicked on item #14 I found he was <DD>telling the truth. He realizes that to install it <DD>himself will void the warranty. Nevertheless he wants <DD>to compare my price for buying the parts (and <DD>installing) with the price he can get the parts for <DD>online and have me install. My first reaction which I <DD>did not voice is that if he buys the parts I will not <DD>touch it. What do you think? How would you handle this <DD>situation? <DD><A href="http://www.vandaking.com/us-shop/index.html" eudora="autourl">http://www.vandaking.com/us-shop/index.html</A> <DD>Piano Showcase <DD>Order Toll Free 1-800-791-7144 <DD>Dampp Chaser® Humidistat for Dehumidifier <DD>Automatic Humidistat for Uprights & Grands - $77.00 <DD>This is a Genuine Dampp-Chaser® Humidistat. 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