<html><body> <DIV><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">HI Dave,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Do you use anything in particular to clean inside the piano besides a vacuum?  Will something like 409 bother strings pins etc?  I find the plate, strings and pins to be quite filthy in pianos.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Marshall</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Piannaman@aol.com <BR> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV>I have a blue handled mute that I bought from Schaff several years ago.  It's a Papp's mute, made of plastic.  I found it to be useless.  It has disappeared into some black hole in the trunk of my car.  It is not to be confused with the flat handled mutes with the blued steel handle, which work quite well.  After the rubber wears out, you can even use the handle to push a rag around in hard to clean places under the strings near the tuning pins.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dave Stahl</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 2/12/2006 10:08:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jlfortiner@gmail.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>I would assume that the "blue handled mute" is really the split black rubber<BR>mute with the flat blued steel handle coming from the back of the mute.  I<BR>have about 1/2 a dozen of them.<BR><BR>John Fortiner<BR>Billings, MT.  <BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Don [mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com] <BR>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 5:19 PM<BR>To: Pianotech List<BR>Subject: Re: Upgrading.....<BR><BR>Hi Marshall,</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Dave Stahl<BR><BR>Dave Stahl Piano Service<BR>650-224-3560<U><BR><A href="http://www.dstahlpiano.net/">http://dstahlpiano.net/</A></U></FONT></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>