<HTML><HEAD></HEAD> <BODY style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER= -LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none"> That must be a Brazilian piano...;-] David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, California <DIV style="PADDING-RIGHT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 5p= x; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 3px solid; PADDING-TOP: 5px"> <HR> Original message From: pianotune05@comcast.net To: Pianotech <PIA= NOTECH@PTG.ORG> Received: 1/4/2006 6:13:47 PM Subject: Re: Tuning= Standard <DIV align=left>Hi again = everyone,</DIV> <DIV>I wish this piano I did today was only a 1/2 st= ep off.  It was so off that the a4 didn' t even sound like an a wh= en first played.  I hope I did the pitch raise right. I raised and= tuned at the same time. Next time I'm going to just match a440 and get= the notes up to as close as possibel then actually tune it.  Woul= d that work?</DIV> <DIV>Marshall</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: = #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- F= rom: David Vanderhoofven <david@vanderpiano.com> > Hi = Arlie, > > Short answer, and sorry about the lack of time= for a full answer. > > 1. Technicians who don't know how= to do pitch raises or how to sell pitch > raises. > 2. M= usicians who don't care that their piano is 1/2 step flat and/or don't = > want to pay for the pitch raise. > 3. Pianos with extre= me rust and the technician is afraid of replacing > broken strin= gs > 4 Pianos with extreme rust and the customer doesn't want to= pay for > replacing broken strings > 5. Worn out, moth-e= aten, rusted out hulks that have received almost no > service an= d the cost of the pitch raise would be more than the value of the &= gt; piano. > 6. Structural damage to the piano and the piano ! c= ouldn't take the extra > tension on the strings without serious = damage. > > Must my 2 cents: A piano that is 1/2 step fla= t is not suited for use by a > musician or student. A piano need= s to be at the correct pitch for > ear-training, music lessons, = performances and playing with other musical > instruments or rec= ordings. It doesn't make sense to me to leave a piano > 1/2 step= flat unless the client is unwilling or unable to pay for the pitch <BR= >> correction. And if the customer is unwilling to pay for the pitch= > correction that is necessary, they are also unlikely to pay f= or any other > needed service the piano needs. > >= Just some ideas off of the top of my head. > Sincerely, &gt= ; > David A. Vanderhoofven > Registered Piano Technician = > Joplin, MO > > At 12:14 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote: = > >A friend in Brazil has been talking to me about the ! poss= ibility of > >beginning tuning, and I'd be glad to help out. = But she says that > >there pianos are generally tuned 1/2 ste= p flat. I'm curious about > >that. Does anyone know why that = might be? Because of that, she says > >they have mostly limit= ed themselves to keyboards to avoid the obvious > >pitch/tran= sposing challenges. > > > >Arlie Rauch > &gt= ;Glendive, MT > >____________________________________________= ___ > >pianotech list info: http://www.ptg.org/mailman/listin= fo/pianotech > > ________________________________________= _______ > pianotech list info: http://www.ptg.org/mailman/listin= fo/pianotech </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BODY></HTML>