<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1264" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hello Isaac,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Yes, the long center pins are available in the = US. Not only do they burnish, but you can file one end to a long sharp point and = you have a perfectly sized reamer also.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>A pinning plank? No, I don't use any such thing. = What is that? Picture?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>I did not know Renner sold "5 or 6 thickness of = bushing cloth in strips, that you have to glue yourself". That sounds like a = winner - next time I order, I will need to ask about those. Thanks.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>I just don't do much rebushing work, so I really = haven't noticed any drawbacks with the graphite that is reported to be in their = cloth. I hear so much negative about it, I would just as soon use cloth without = the graphite.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Terry Farrell</FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=oleg-i@noos.fr href="mailto:oleg-i@noos.fr">Isaac sur = Noos</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 22, = 2004 3:23 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Flange Bushing = Cloth</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Terry,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>good to you that you catched on this, as it is the usual method for = production repining. So the long center pins are available in the US ? I like the = fact they burnish the cloth,it is faster than using a burnished separately. = Many other advantages, as you state. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>Are you using a "pinning plank" to be at ease and pull the pin straight = also ?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>Pre glued bushing flange are thickest than many old parts, but  they = sell also 5 or 6 thickness of bushing cloth in strips, that you have to = glue yourself (and graphite , they recommend !) pure wool is considered the = good choice (while I never seen "Wool mark" mark on cloth = !.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>Have just an idea about the graphite on the bushing cloth : its presence as = an hygroscopic material, allow possibly the flange cloth to react more = with humidity , then more thickness is obtained while the hole enlarges = because of more humidity ? Let's stay positive !</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>Best Regards.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>Isaac OLEG</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=009531408-22012004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la = part de</B> Farrell<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> jeudi 22 janvier 2004 02:09<BR><B>À :</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re: = Flange Bushing Cloth<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial>I don't know anything = about Schaff's bushing cloth and cutting cloth, etc. I have been using = Renner pre-cut & pre-glued bushing cloth strips and using their flange = bushing cloth sizing tool:  </FONT><A = href="http://markotech.com/ECscripts/ECware.exe/dcp?id=002&sku== 1855&type=A1QN11&lc=EN"><FONT face=Arial = size=2>http://markotech.com/ECscripts/ECware.exe/dcp?id=002&sku== 1855&type=A1QN11&lc=EN</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>  These materials and tools have made rebushing = flanges painless and perfect everytime for me. Renner's long (about two = feet) center pins are very handy also when doing a bunch of flanges. Joel = Rappaport (I think it was him - the guy that does Tanglewood) did a class at a = convention a few years back on this method.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- = </FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Benny L. Tucker" = <</FONT><A href="mailto:precisionpiano@alltel.net"><FONT face=Arial size=2>precisionpiano@alltel.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: <</FONT><A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT face=Arial size=2>pianotech@ptg.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial = size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 = 7:33 PM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Flange Bushing Cloth</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT = face=Arial size=2>> List,<BR>>     I took on one of = those jobs that I didn't really want, to re-pin the<BR>> butt flanges on an = old upright action. While most bushings presented no<BR>> problem, a = few pushed out while removing the old pins. I've never re-bushed<BR>> = flanges before, so out with the Reblitz and Schaff catalog. Got my = supplies,<BR>> and following Reblitz's directions, I could not get the cloth to = meet in the<BR>> hole. Once, twice, three, four or more times I could not = get this bushing<BR>> cloth to lay in the hole gapless. So I got to = measuring and calculating and<BR>> here's what I came up with.<BR>> = Flange Bushing drill = 7/64ths diameter. This calculates out to a hole = that<BR>> would be 11/32nds in circumference.<BR>> Flange Bushing cloth = advertised as 17/64th's. That's 5/64th's less than<BR>> needed already. The = actual cloth I got out of a dozen strips was 8 strips of<BR>> 7/32nds = and 4 strips was 1/4 inch wide.<BR>> Now, am I missing something here? = Am I using the wrong size drill to ream<BR>> the old bushings out? Is = there a suitable alternative to "flange bushing<BR>> cloth", other than = buying a whole yard of it and cutting myself. It would<BR>> take me = forever to use a yard of the stuff, not to mention the price it<BR>> fairly = steep just to have some on hand when the need arises.<BR>> Thanks for your help.<BR>> <BR>> Benny L. Tucker<BR>> Precision Piano = Tuning & Repair<BR>> Thomaston, Ga.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> pianotech = list info: </FONT><A = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"><FONT face=Arial = size=2>https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</FONT></A> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>