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<DIV>In a message dated 8/25/2004 9:28:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,
nicho@zianet.com writes:</DIV>
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size=2> <FONT
size=3> Mr. Nichols</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT size=3> I would be most happy to provide you with serial =
no.s
as soon as I can get them.</FONT></DIV>
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=2>:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=arial
size=2> </FONT><FONT face=arial> To All my esteemed=
colleagues</FONT><FONT face=arial size=2><BR></FONT><FONT
face=arial> Probably all of you are aware of a rebui=
lding
outfit across the border in Juarez, Mexico.</FONT><FONT face=arial
size=2><BR></FONT><FONT face=arial> I've seen two recently "re=
built"
Stwys that were a disaster with one
exception.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Dale,<BR><BR> Hi. =
I'm
the owner of the U.S. brokerage known as SAMA. I took over ownership this
spring, and before that have worked as a consultant for the company. This
company operates a plant in Juarez, across the border from El
Paso.<BR><BR> First off, I'd like to ask you where the connect=
ion
is between these two pianos and the "outfit".</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV> <FONT size=3>>>> Booth clients confirmed these pianos=
had
been rebuilt in Juarez. It won't help to get hung up in the semantics.
Call it what you like.</FONT></DIV>
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FONT
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=2><BR>Very
seriously, Sir, as your post makes no actual connection.</FONT></BLOCKQUOT=
E>
<DIV>.>>. <FONT size=3>Very seriously as well, how many piano
reconditioning shops are there in Juarez. If I'm mistaken about there being =
just
one then please inform me and correct my misunderstanding & I'll give th=
e
other firm credit.</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
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FONT
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size=2><BR> Second, I'll point out that SAMA does not sell
pianos.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT size=3>>> I didn't say they did. Both were bought from de=
alers
who sent them there to Juarez.</FONT></DIV>
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FONT
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size=2><BR> Thirdly, I'll point out that many of the over 16=
00
(yes, sixteen HUNDRED) pianos that have been remanufactured by our
"outfit" in Juarez have not come to us with actions in the first place. So=
me
come for just finish, and many that should be junked or have blocks or boa=
rds
replaced wind up getting their other belly work elsewhere.</FONT></BLOCKQU=
OTE>
<DIV> <FONT size=3> >>>Guy , I did check into Sama whe=
n it
first came along and was told there was no ability to do anything but patch =
the
boards with shims. Also I doubt a piano would be shipped that far for a simp=
le
refinish so I will assume the boards I saw were patched
there. </FONT></DIV>
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FONT
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size=2><BR><BR> The SAMA plant=
is
directed by Salvador Ortiz, 29 year veteran of Baldwin. I've been around a=
while, and am capable of making mistakes, but normally don't. The conditio=
ns
you describe sound like problems that wouldn't come close to being shipped=
out, especially in the last couple of years. Our instruments are shipped t=
o
our dealers and techs and have a warranty that covers all of the condition=
s
you describe. The fact that these conditions exist indicate that perhaps S=
AMA
did not do the work in question.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV> <FONT size=3> It also indicates that maybe quality contro=
l
isn't what it should be & it sounds frankly like your perhaps passing th=
e
buck. <STRONG>If I end up being wrong you will be</STRONG> <STRONG>the first=
to
know with a humble apology</STRONG>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3> In the case of the Stwy A the dealer in question h=
as no
facility to do the work I saw & has done other business with you I'm
told.</FONT></DIV>
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size=2><BR><BR><X-TAB> </=
X-TAB>So,
Mr. Erwin, I'd like to request the chance to verify your accusations.
</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV> <FONT size=3>>> Well acusations is a bit strong & def=
ensive
but they are certainly the results of thourough first hand examination
&observations based on 32 years of expereince The facts presented are a
recititation of what very unhappy clients related to me
personally.</FONT></DIV>
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FONT
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=2>Please
supply me with the serial numbers of the pianos, and I can tell you whethe=
r
they were ever in Juarez.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV> <FONT size=3>> I'm under no obligation to do so but I would
welcome the oppurtunity to do so.If can retreive them I will do so most
expeditiously. I beleive I can retreive the O perhaps by next week. The A as=
well. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3> If they did come from your plant what would the
warranty cover & if the work was dome poorly what gaurantee is there tha=
t it
will get done the second time?</FONT></DIV>
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FONT
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size=2><BR><BR><X-TAB> </=
X-TAB>I
ask that until then, you reserve judgement about a business that has hundr=
eds
of satisfied customers.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT size=3>>> So you said. & I will reserve it based on w=
hat I
saw. It gives me no pleasure to see clients get the short end of the stick &=
amp;
you should hope that the eveidence doesn't indict you. Until then I in=
vite
all techs who have seen your work to weigh in & testify to what is=
really being done in Juarez & by who</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3> Perhaps quality is on the rise since your purchas=
e
& that would be most welcome. I happen to know you by reputation & s=
ense
of humor & hopefully we'll find one in all this at some point.</FONT></D=
IV>
<DIV><FONT size=3> What I do know absolutely for certain sure is&nbs=
p;
some pretty sorry pianos with devesteted clients. <STRONG>The finish as I sa=
id
was beautiful.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3> Sincerely</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3> Dale Erwin</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3> </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
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FONT
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size=2>References available upon request at <A
title=http://www.samapianos.com/ href="http://www.samapianos.com/"
eudora="autourl">www.samapianos.com</A> Plant tours are welcome.
<BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR>Guy Nichols, RPT<BR>President, SAMA</FONT></BLOCKQUO=
TE>
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