<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1522" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Last time I talked to Jim was about 6 = mo ago.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianotune05@comcast.net href="mailto:pianotune05@comcast.net">pianotune05@comcast.net</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=tune4u@earthlink.net href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net">tune4u@earthlink.net</A> ; <A title=pianotech@ptg.org = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 08, 2006 = 2:45 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: YES YES YES was NO = NO NO</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Speaking of George Defabaugh, does anyone know if Jim Coleman is = still alive?  What did George die from . He seemed pretty healthy on = the Potter vidoes.</DIV> <DIV>Marshall</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px = solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Alan Barnard" <<A href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net">tune4u@earthlink.net</A>> = <BR> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR>1. You will = allow, I hope, that I said I wasn't really ranting and I did put a little = grin in there <G> in my posting. I have no desire to be overly picky, = boorish, or know-it-all-ish. 'Cause I'm not, and I ain't, and I don't.<BR><BR>2.  Interesting comment about things written in = stone (if you write in stone are you, by definition, a chisler?). I would = simply ask this question: Would you ever teach a new tuner to use F3 in setting = the A? Or would you follow the example of Vigil Smith, Geo. Defenbaugh, Art = Reblitz, and everyone else I know of, and just teach F2 because it = is more accurate?<BR><BR>3. Remember that this whole discussion started with = a newbie trying to find his way. If our comments on setting the silly = A haven't confused him, I'm surprised. So I said just let it be a = rule. If someone wants to make exceptions to "rules" or common and proven practices—and they truly understand what they are doing and! = why—I have no quarrel.<BR><BR>4.  Since t! his discussion has been hashed = over so often, and since science supports the "rule", and since it is so = universally published and taught correctly, i.e. F2 or B1, I didn't see this as = matter of hair-splitting or debate, and certainly not one for contention. I = was surprised that anyone would even pick up my comments as starting = point for a debate!<BR><BR>5.  To quote Joe out in Origani, = "Sheesh."<BR><IMG alt="" hspace=0 src="cid:410-220061082134194531@13071999" = align=baseline border=0><BR>Alan Barnard<BR>Salem (It Means "Peace"), = Missouri<BR><BR>> I might as well say this today; I've been biting my tongue and thinking<BR>> discretion is the better part of valor....'n = stuff....but now I gotta say<BR>> something:<BR>><BR>> We get so trapped = down box canyons on this list, expending massive amounts<BR>> of = energy on teeny, teeny minutiae that rarely, if ever, deserve the kind = of<BR>> energy and effort they! receive.  There are ways we can really = help! each<BR>> other, and help those new to us, by talking about = activities and protocols<BR>> that really ARE crucial to building a = successful practice; we do that some<BR>> of the time, but a LOT of = bandwidth is expended on what I call "debate club"<BR>> matters----little hair-splitting arguments/dialogues that indicate too much<BR>> = time on one's hands---or something. We want to present an expert face = and<BR>> presence to this list, and understandably so, but let's do it with humanity,<BR>> humor,common sense and compassion.<BR>><BR>> = Flame suit on, locked and loaded, watching the NFL playoffs with mah = boy.<BR>> Perfect winter day in SoCal....<BR>><BR>> David = Andersen<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> pianotech = list info: = https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOT= E></BODY></HTML>