<HTML>In a message dated 2/17/2002 3:26:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, tompiano@gate.net writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Subj:Re: voiceing Date:2/17/2002 3:26:40 AM Pacific Standard Time From:    tompiano@gate.net (Tom Servinsky) Sender:    owner-pianotech@ptg.org Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> To:    pianotech@ptg.org  Tom</BLOCKQUOTE> Be patient Tom . A soon as the piaanerr starts breaking strings the phone will ring.  Ohh I feel your pain brother. Been there done that And have givin up on church pianos except ours. Your director could be hard of hearing or deaf in one ear. If not he will be.    >>>>Dale <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> Phil One of the most painful lessons I had to live with involved a piano at my own church. A new music director was hired and within a few months a new Yamaha C6 was placed in the sanctuary. I had been doing the tuning all along and was asked to voice the piano due to a extremely weak tenor section.  Actually all-in-all,the piano sounded rather acceptable...evenly balanced with a fair amount of projection. What I did notice was a definite lack of sustain, something quite common with most voicing problems. I proceeded to do some shoulder voicing and succeeded in improving the sustain dramatically. For the most part the piano was starting have a nice dynamic range and good singing tone. Well I got blasted (verbally) and before I new it wasn't the one tuning the piano again. For the past 2 years I have had to listen to this piano get brighter and brighter to the point it's only a loud piano with the "broken glass" syndrome. I've heard comments from the gentleman that the piano never sounded better.  It troubles me when technicians who take their work seriously and go to great extremes to learn and understand the full understandings of the piano have to be undermined by those who have not a clue with what is actually being heard. I have often remarked that if some of these pianists would have to be the one sitting in the audience and listenening to bright- tinny pianos they too would become annoyed and change their opinion. Just my 2 cents Tom Servinsky </BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML>