<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>Bill,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've been using your method to learn EBVT and am quite pleased with the = results. So far I did 3 pianos and have to agree with you that the pianos have = become mellower and more harmonious. Also I find the procedure (temperamant = setting) to be easily done.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Marcel Carey</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: = owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf Of Billbrpt@AOL.COM Sent: 18 janvier, 2002 = 09:19 To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: Cordier temperament & = tempered octaves </DIV>In a message dated 1/15/02 7:47:54 PM Central Standard Time, = oleg-i@wanadoo.fr (Isaac OLEG SIMANOT) writes: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">Just to say that I tuned a few pianos , verticals and = grand's, with the Bill Bremmer method of equal tempered octaves. Thanks to Mr = Bremmer to put his method on the Web </BLOCKQUOTE> Merci beaucoup, = thank you, Oleg for your testimonial.  Yes, the Tempered Octaves method is = surprisingly easy and yields beautiful and consistent results.  Perhaps some = of those who find it hard to believe that I can tune as quickly as I can and do = "all the checks" will realize that I don't need to any more than just one = for each of the notes in the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th and 7th octaves and have = results just as quickly and accurately as if I had used an ETD.  Also, this = method is perfectly suited for ET, I developed it back in the early 1980's when = I was still tuning ET. Now, Oleg, if you will make the effort to try = to learn the EBVT, I am sure that you will find it to be superior to the = Cordier temperament.  You will get the same good effect with Romantic = music as you get with the Cordier but earlier music played in the simple keys = with close harmony will sound much more harmonious. In my opinion, = the idea of tuning a temperament with all pure 5ths is self serving to the = tuner only.  A tuner does not like the sound of the tempered 5th when tuning = and feels the urge to "correct" it.  This is what leads to the = Reverse Well error.  If only all 5ths could be pure and all 3rds beat gently, = we would all be in Tuner's Heaven but it cannot ever happen.  There will = always be a consequence. Therefore, it is better to accept that fact and = *arrange* the consequences to align themselves with the Cycle of 5ths. =  The tempered 5th sound that is displeasing to a tuner will not = be heard in the typical musical context.  The EBVT, as many HT's do = provides a canceling out effect that causes that tempered sound to be = "swallowed".  Also, my Tempered Octave method "cleans up" this sound in the = outer octaves.  The EBVT with Tempered Octaves will provide you with = the cleanest, purest, most harmonious sounding piano you have ever heard.  Try it and you will be amazed. Bill = Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin <A = href="http://www.billbremmer.com/">Click here: -=w w w . b i l l b r e m m e r . c o m =-</A> </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>