<html> Heck, I needle and gang file them on the bench before I hang them, thought every body did that way.  <G>  Yamaha hammers about 7 or 8 shots per shoulder deep, with 3 needles.   And that is just getting started.   Once hung, lots more deep needling to open up the tone.  The less I have to do at the crown the better I like it. Roger Roger At 07:14 PM 9/18/02 -0400, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Standard pre-voicing needle work.  Hammers hung, needled in this fashion. Jon Page</blockquote> </html>