<html> <body> Hi Cy, At 10:45 PM 3/22/04, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I'm afraid I'm misunderstanding you (or not getting a joke?).  Do you get single strings with premade coils?  </blockquote> Yes, that's what I've done in one instance of restringing a Bose. They came in a big box and are installed just like one would a bass string. <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I was responding to the comment that single strings would save time in a factory setting...</blockquote> Sorry if "I" misunderstood. :-) In a factory, of course, they would have a very efficient way of making all those individual coils. <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I've only helped in a restringing by standing at the tail end and threading the up through the bridge pins, but it sure seems that after an octave or so, you'd really be into the rhythm of it: three fingers past the pin hole, snip, thread through pin, make right angle for becket, three turns with the T-handle, pound it in, lift the coil, and tighten it up a little more. </blockquote> Don't forget to also squeeze the becket in tightly! <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> My guess is it takes experienced people, what, maybe two hours to string a grand?  It's awesome to see.</blockquote> Maybe but I know I'M no where close to 2 hours! :-) Of course, I don't do but maybe 2-3 a year, either. <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>--Cy--</blockquote> Avery <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> <dl> <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: <a href="mailto:avery@ev1.net">Avery Todd</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</a> <dd>Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 4:11 PM <dd>Subject: Re: There's always a hitch <dd>Cy, <dd>And how many seconds/minutes does it take you to make all those individual coils <dd>for an entire piano and make it look as good as the factory does? :-) <dd>Just wishing I could do it better! <dd>Avery <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> <dd>Compare that with a bulk reel of wire of a certain gauge: only takes a second to snip it to the right length, and you've got the same number of tuning pin coils to make. <dd>  <dd>--Cy Shuster-- <dd>Rochester, MN <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: <a href="mailto:mark@nhpianos.com">Mark Dierauf</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <dd>Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:35 AM <dd>Subject: RE: There's always a hitch <dd>I would think that you might expect slightly better tuning stability with this system. On large pitch changes there’s no way that the tension of one string of a unison can effect the other strings as might be the case with normal strings looped around a hitch-pin. Having all three strings the same length from hitch-pin to tuning pin can only help. My thinking is that once set up it might save significant time during the factory stringing process by having all strings pre measured for any given scale. <dd>- Mark <dd> </blockquote> </dl></blockquote></body> </html>