<HTML>Ron, Don, I agree with Dean on this one.  I'm chiming in a bit late after a c= ouple of days camping and away from electronica(nice, it was).  Despite= the seriously divergent philosophies on piano building, and the many things= mentioned that I really haven't dealt with on a professional basis, I find = the argument fascinating, and certainly appreciate all of the time put into = the posts from both of you.  I look forward to a time when I can see on= e of your pianos, Ron.  Can't make it to Australia in the near future. =  Any plans to send one stateside? Dave Stahl In a message dated 7/6/04 1:47:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sec@overspia= nos.com.au writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">>><FONT= COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZ= E=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">I don= 't know Don. I think I should spend more time building the designs I have dr= awn, and less time contributing to the list. There's probably little to gain= from contributing.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ron O.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARG= IN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARG= IN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What you need to keep in= mind, Ron, and you, too, Don, is that your exchange is not for your sole be= nefit. All of us reading greatly benefit from your exchange, especially when= it is kept civil. You are stating your case not to convince Don, but to edu= cate the rest of us. And I appreciate the input of both.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARG= IN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARG= IN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Blessings,</BLOCKQUOTE= > <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Dean May  &nbsp= ;          cell 812.239.33= 59</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">PianoRebuilders.com =   812.235.5272</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Terre Haute IN &nbsp= ;47802</BLOCKQUOTE> Thanks for your comments Dean. I take your observations on board and agr= ee. I'm sure most contributors and subscribers to this list are passionate a= bout piano technology. We wouldn't otherwise take the time to partake in wha= t the Pianotech list has to offer. Subscribing is a time consuming process f= or most of us. Just yesterday morning my wife, Kristie, and I met Roger Jolly and his w= ife Maree when they arrived early in Sydney, to take a short holiday before = heading down to Adelaide by train to present classes at the Australasian Pia= no Technicians Convention, July 22 - 25. We recently received permission from the Sydney Conservatorium to borrow= the Overs no. 5 for exhibit at the Adelaide convention. So for any who migh= t wish to take a few days off at a piano convention in the south of Australi= a, it can now double as an opportunity to see one of our pianos if you are i= nterested. For further information on the Convention please contact Robin St= evens, mailto:mmrr6596@bigpond.net.au (unfortunately the APTTA website i= s down at present. We'll be looking into this matter later on today)<= FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"= SIZE=3 PTSIZE=12 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">. Roger, as is usual for him, was pretty keyed-up when he hit the tarmac. = Although they hadn't slept much over the 20 or so hours they had endured on = their flight from Saskatoon, following an eat out breakfast Roger was ready = for quick city tour. We took a run around some of the visual and cultural hi= ghlights of our city, including also a Conservatorium visit for a quick look= at our no. 5. Fortunately the piano was in the Music Workshop with Stuart's= concert grand, which was purchased by the Conservatorium quite recently als= o. By the time we toured a few more sites and had lunch, travel weariness f= inally overtook our two guests. So we bid them good day for the time being. = We had a most enjoyable morning. Getting back to your post Dean, I find the most dangerous thing for me, = diplomacy-wise, is to reply to a post and send it off immediately. I think w= e can be prone to writing stuff which is bit on the hot side in the heat of = the moment. Delaying a post until the next morning allows for a review which= can allow for a certain amount of de-steaming. We could probably help our lot if we cool it occasionally, and I'm refer= ring to myself also in regard to this matter. The recent history of certain = matters pertaining to international events, might well have had a better out= come if the protagonists on both sides had pulled back on their respective h= eadstrong approach, to realize that many innocent lives have been spent in w= hat history may view to be to an exercise in futility. We are indeed fortunate to be still here. Thank you. Ron O. </BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML>