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class=060210200-18092004><STRONG>*my* comments below
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everyone!</STRONG></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2> but that the dehumidifier might overdo it.... uhm, it =
was my
impression that the whole "climate CONTROL system" aspect =
included a
thermostat that actually sensed when it needed to =
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<DIV><SPAN class=310102604-17092004><FONT color=#800000><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=2>Kinda. It is controlled by a humidistat =
- kinda like
a thermostat only different - senses reletive humidity rather than
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size=2><SPAN class=060210200-18092004><STRONG>d'oh! i MEANT =
"humidistat" -
silly silly, i know better. just verbally drainbead
lately...</STRONG></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2> i'm not all THAT familiar with dampp chasers, except =
for my own
positive experience as a pianist. are there any negatives of using =
this, or
what? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=310102604-17092004><FONT color=#800000><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=2>No. But I wonder....... if the piano =
owner forgets
to put water in it, does the little heater bar for the humidifier go =
on and
stay on all winter?<SPAN class=060210200-18092004><FONT
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<FONT color=#000080><STRONG>my experience with the old 25-year-old =
unit in
my home piano, is a resounding *yes*, however, i think someone else =
on here
already mentioned that current models don't.
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<DIV><SPAN class=310102604-17092004><FONT face=Arial =
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size=2><STRONG>thanks, </STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2><STRONG>ilex</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On =
Behalf
Of </B>Marcel Carey<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 17, 2004 =
12:05
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Environmental =
tuning
mysteries: solved, hopefully<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=437010504-17092004><FONT face=Arial =
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size=2>Dampp chaser with undercover.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>Marcel Carey</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org =
[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf
Of </B>Piannaman@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> September 16, 2004 =
11:38
PM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Environmental
tuning mysteries: solved, hopefully<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT
face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2 PTSIZE="10">Esteemed =
list scholars and
such, <BR><BR>I don't know how many of you remember the =
case of
the corroding strings on a brand new Kawai Rx-3 I encountered in =
January
of this year. I followed up by strongly suggesting that =
they stop
mopping the radiant concrete floor with a vinegar-water =
solution(acid
steam beath), which they did. I thouroughly cleaned the =
strings,
tuned the piano a couple of times, and went back a week ago, and =
voila--no more corrosion! Not only that, the bloody thing =
was so
close to being in tune I almost felt badly taking the =
money--well, not
really... <BR><BR>#2. I've been tuning a Steinway M that =
has new
strings, hammers, pins, block, wips, but I'm not sure about the =
board.
She's a very good customer, gets her piano tuned =
every 6
months like clockwork. I first tuned the piano 2 years =
ago, and
today was my fourth trip out. First time, it was 10-15 =
cents flat.
Second time, it was 10 cents or so sharp, third time, 10 =
cents
flat; today 5-10 cents sharp. I do know how to stabilize a =
piano,
so this was a mystery to me. At least until I heard the =
air
conditioner go on. <BR><BR>It's been hot in these parts =
lately,
and pianos are going flat in droves(the houses in this part of =
CA are
built for earthquakes, not inclement weather), but in the case =
of this
piano, it's in a very large luxury home, with all the amenities. =
Unfortunately, the piano is directly under a duct that =
dumps cold,
moist air directly on it. I'm convinced that is what's =
going on
here. In the winter, the heat comes out of the same duct, =
but to
slightly less effect, since the heat rises. The duct is =
now
permanently closed. More details next time. <BR><BR>Any =
comments
or thoughts on this one? Just thought it was kind of =
interesting.
<BR><BR>Dave Stahl
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