<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Try Harbour Freight stores or check them out online. I purchased an electric engine hoist for $60 that we use weekly. Lee Sankey San Diego HazenBannister@cs.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hi list, I am using an old chainfall to lift out plates,when rebuilding.I was looking at an old journal, April 2001,and there is a picture of a rectangle shaped hoist,from Bob Hoft, journal editor.Does anyone have any neat plans,or ideas for this kind of lift. Thanks, Hazen Bannister</blockquote> </html>