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topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><BR>MIchael,<BR><BR>Did you ever try=
tightening the pinblock screws on that Kawai?<BR><BR>David=
I.<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Original message<BR>From: Michael Gamble=
<MICHAEL@GAMBLES.FSNET.CO.UK><BR>To: Farrell=
<MFARREL2@TAMPABAY.RR.COM>, <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Received:=
Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:22:29 +0100<BR>Subject: Re: Moving from=
Uprights to Grands<BR><BR>
<DIV align=left>Hello Terry and Listers</DIV>
<DIV>The answer to this lies in the meetings of the PTA in the=
UK. Such things are discussed. I guess it is a rare occasion=
otherwise for tuners to meet each other. I am lucky in this=
respect working at Glyndebourne as I have a colleague there and=
we.... discuss things.... like Tuning Rates, what to do about=
that Kawai CA-4 etc. etc. etc. He's a MPTA though I am not - I=
get a lot of my info from the List (thanks!) :-) and from=
discussions with my colleague. The only time I have ever watched=
a tuner in action was when I was asked by a newly qualified=
tuner from the Furniture College, London, if I could monitor his=
tuning and comment. He used a felt strip and I cringed - yes...=
<EM>cringed.... </EM>as he poked the felt between the strings to=
lay the bearings. I am very glad ears were invented :-)=
Incidentally when he got to the top all h*ll broke loose. He=
- had - no - idea... how to get the top strings right - and=
that was after a three year course..... How <EM>do</EM> those=
postal courses work if there's no-one to monitor your results?=
I'm baffled. Yes... <EM>baffled. ;-)</EM></DIV>
<DIV>Regards from a beautiful, hot, sunny day in Sussex where=
there's a "Hosepipe Ban!" now in force. Our reservoirs are=
running low.</DIV>
<DIV>Michael G.(UK) (<EM>baffled)</EM></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com=
href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=
title=pianotech@ptg.org=
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 21,=
2005 1:23 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Moving from=
Uprights to Grands</DIV>
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<DIV>"It has always been looked down upon in the profession=
here if a tuner still has to use a temperament=
strip..."</DIV>
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<DIV>What kind of an environment is it where other piano=
technicians watch what another piano technician does during a=
tuning? I don't think any tech has ever watched me tune a piano,=
and only once have I watched someone else tune a piano.</DIV>
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<DIV>Oh, maybe another tech saw me tune years ago when I was=
doing some floor tunings at a dealer.</DIV>
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<DIV>Terry Farrell</DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Byeway222@aol.com=
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<DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>The=
whole business of strip muting for either the temperament octave=
or even into the further reaches of the piano has alway been=
controversial here in UK. Probably like Michael I was=
trained very traditionally, to discard the strip mute quite=
early on and rely on one's ear for laying the temperament with=
just two wedges. It has always been looked down upon in=
the profession here if a tuner still has to use a=
temperament strip, almost suggesting that his/her ear is not=
reliable enough to do without it. The analogy being a=
baby's walking frame I suppose! Because of=
this early influence I can actually feel 'ashamed' if I resort=
to using a strip or rubber gang mute on a difficult=
piano. Do i need psychoanalysis? However, I could=
actually argue pretty stongly in favour of using them with=
very small grands and uprights where inharmonicity is so=
pronounced that setting an acceptable temperament can take more=
than one pass, and using this aid would be quicker. When=
this topic comes under discussion over here it is generally=
argued that the temperament is not exactly the same when you=
return to complete the unisons and that the whole excercise can=
be more time consuming.</DIV>
<DIV>It would be interesting to know what proportion of tuners is=
'mute free'</DIV>
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