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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>HI Ric,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Once again careless wording gets me in
trouble. Should have said "tells me right away IF I HAVE =
temperament or
unison problems". I know those passages pretty well (you have no =
idea how
many times I had to repeat them before I could get through them with
any confidence at all), so if it doesn't sound the way I expect, =
then I do
specific interval checks to see what the problem is. There's this =
mental
wall that I can't deconstruct (don't want to..) that separates music =
from
tuning. I play something, the piano sounds good or it =
doesn't.
If it doesn't, I do tests to isolate the tuning problem.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm sure there are many more efficient =
and
effective methods, and I'm hoping other list members will share them =
with
us.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike Spalding</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no
href="mailto:Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no">Richard Brekne</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 14, 2003 =
7:50
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Tuning Tunes</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Interesting comments in light of some claims as to what =
can or
cannot be heard relative to temperament concerns by piano tuners. Here =
is a
piano tuner who actively employes the playing of a musical piece to =
help him
identify exactly temperament problems, and problems with unisons as =
well.
<P>I wonder if Mike might try and put words to how temperament =
problems are
sensed in this manner. Surely it is not in the same fashion as in =
attempting
to count beats in test intervals. I'd be very interested in what you =
are
actually listening (feeling ??) for
<P>RicB
<P>Mike Spalding wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">Hey Stars,
<P>I like to start the Brahms Op 119 #1 at measure 24, through about =
50. It's <BR>F most of the way, and gets all of the bass and =
tenor
ringing. If anything <BR>is going to shake loose, this will do =
it. Then at measure 44 or so there <BR>are quiet arpeggios =
that tell
me right away about temperament or unison <BR>problems. Also, =
a Mozart
Andante, I forget which sonata it's from, in <BR>Gmajor. =
Again, it
tells me about problems in the temperament or unisons in <BR>the =
tenor /
treble.
<P>regards,
<P>Mike Spalding RPT <BR><A
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<P>-- <BR>Richard Brekne <BR>RPT, N.P.T.F. <BR>UiB, Bergen, Norway =
<BR><A
href="mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no">mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no</A> =
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