<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META charset=US-ASCII http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2737.800" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff"> <DIV>I finally = quit miking all the springs as I did for several years.  They are always well = numbered and in order in Renner wip sets.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I can't see = how pins could be too loose short of wobbling which would not happen in = Renner.  It would be a good thing to have them pre broken-in.  But having = springs loose on several they were not what I would consider loose....or tight.  = Years ago, I did have a couple sets of shanks from Renner that = wobbled and needed larger center pins but a mention to Lloyd took care of the problem.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> D.L. Bullock    St. Louis <A href="http://www.thepianoworld.com/">www.thepianoworld.com</STR= ONG></A>    -----Original Message----- From: = Topperpiano@aol.com [mailto:Topperpiano@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 1:06 = PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: Renner = repetition springs <BLOCKQUOTE>Jim was correct in that the whippens could have been packed = out of order or put on in the wrong order and the springs of incorrect = diameter would be either too strong or too weak, which of course would cause = regulation problems.  The pinning could be very loose, primarily on the rep = lever causing the regulation of the spring to be too strong.  I have = had actions, mostly older, that the combination of pinning problems, all = centers way too loose to combine into this problem.  I have generally = solved it also with a pre weakening step on brand new parts. TP </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>