<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=317175521-18052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>I understand that one can use an EDT to tune one string, but, = particyularely for a honky tonk tuning, the effect may be generated and driven by ear, it is = not that difficult really and is most enjoyeable, once you have get accainted to = the strange tone.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=317175521-18052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=317175521-18052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>I did not try to make that 6 hz up/down difference,  semm very high to = me, but I will try someday. Agreed that the bass can be leaved alone (blended with = the rest in fact)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=317175521-18052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=317175521-18052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Best regards.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=317175521-18052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=317175521-18052004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Isaac Oleg</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la part de</B> jason kanter<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> mardi 18 mai 2004 = 01:18<BR><B>À :</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re: Ragtime/Honky Tonk tuning, was out = of tune<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>The way I interpret the guidelines is = this:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>All the middle strings of all the = trichords are to be tuned in ET based on A-440; all the left strings to be tuned in ET = based on A-434; and all the right-hand strings to be tuned in ET based on = A-446. This produces the +6,-6 beats at A4.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>So, following Jon's suggestion, we = would strip mute all the three-string unisons and tune all the center strings as = usual. Then we would set the ETD to A-434 (how to do this varies with device) and = tune all the left-hand strings, and finally set the ETD to A-446 and tune all the = right-hand strings.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>|| ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || = ||| || ||| || |||<BR>jason kanter * piano tuning <BR>bellevue, wa * 425 562 4127 * = cell 425 831 1561<BR>orcas island * 360 376 2799<BR>|| ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| = || ||| || ||| || ||| || |||<BR></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca = href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">John Ross</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 17, 2004 3:12 = PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Ragtime/Honky Tonk = tuning, was out of tune</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Hi Jon,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Do you mean +/- 6 = cents?</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>You couldn't go +/- 6 Hz, up and down. = Or are you just meaning C3 and up?</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Best,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>John M. Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada<BR><A = href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></DIV>= <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jonpage@comcast.net = href="mailto:jonpage@comcast.net">Jon Page</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 17, 2004 = 6:45 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Ragtime/Honky Tonk = tuning, was out of tune</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>><BR><PRE>You tune to normal equal temperament, = but when you tune the unisons you >raise the right string by 6 Hz (beats) and lower the left string by = 6 Hz. >This is starting at A440.... A220 the right string should be 3 beats up >and the left string 3 beats down... by A880 the right string will be tuned >12 beats sharp and the left string 12 beats flat, and so on. This should be fairly easy with an ETD. Tune all middle strings at pitch. Then set the ETD to +6 Hz and tune all right strings, set to -6 Hz and tune all left strings, or vise versa. Or so it seems to me. <X-SIGSEP><P></X-SIGSEP> Regards, Jon Page, piano technician Harwich Port, Cape Cod, Mass. <A href="mailto:jonpage@comcast.net" = eudora="autourl">mailto:jonpage@comcast.net </A>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ </P></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>