<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>Kevin,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am definitely interested in how you do pitch raises with the SAT III.  I'm still trying to understand all of the "bells and whistles."<= /DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Don Palmire</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 19:06:39 -0700 "Kevin E. Ramsey" <<A href="mailto:ramsey@extremezone.com">ramsey@extremezone.com</A>> writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px = solid"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>        I = suggest you go back and re-view the video with Jim Coleman Sr, and George = Defebaugh. Mr. Defebaugh will show you how to tune the temperament 33% sharp using = the single strings, and stretching the octaves as you go up. Mr. Coleman will= show you how to do it with one of the early Accu-tuners. Since the time of the= tape, the SAT has been upgraded a lot. Depends on your methods as to how = you plan to accomplish a pitch raise. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    As to the first part = of your question; I do a pitch raise any time to piano is four or more cents flat= . I may not always charge the customer if it's that close, but as George = Defebaugh used to say, " It's better to quickly tune a piano twice, than it is to struggle with it once."  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    Believe me, from = experience I know it's true. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    If you really want to= learn the best way to do pitch raises with a SAT 2 or 3, write me privately. I'= ve got it down pat. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Kevin E. Ramsey<BR><A href="mailto:ramsey@extremezone.com">ramsey@extremezone.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-= LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>= From:</B> <A title=euphoniac@juno.com href="mailto:euphoniac@juno.com">euphoniac@juno.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org= href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 24, 2002 8:19= PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Pitch Raise Questions</= DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>I am currently a Randy Potter student with some = questions about pitch<BR>raising.  When I measure the pitch of A4 with my = SAT III, how low (in<BR>cents) should it be for me to need to perform a = pitch raise?  Also, when<BR>performing a pitch raise, is it better to = raise only the single strings<BR>all the way up, or should I raise all of the= strings of each note as I<BR>go?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Don Palmire</BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Don Palmire<BR>Euphonium<BR>The U.S. = Army Band ("Pershing's Own")<BR>euphoniac@juno.com<BR></BODY></HTML>