<HTML>            Del    Just for the record when any of us refer to grain angle in a soundboard could we specify where it is we are measuring that from so all can be clear as to intended meaning        I.E. I always measure off the spine. What I have found 90% of time is either a 45 or 40 degree of grain angle which is mostly perpendicular to the ribs. Stwy models s,m,l,are all 45 degrees O's, A s Cs Bs  Ds are most all 40 degrees. I have had this problem when ordering boards and it can become really annoying when the long awaiited boards show up with bizarre and unusual configurations!!!!    If your talking 60 degrees off the belly and not the spine that translates into something close to 40 or 45 degrees measures off the spine if I,m thinking straight.   Would you mind clarifying       Thanks --Dale    </HTML>