<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What is particularly puzzling is how a = whole step can be 200c when 100 of anything sounds pretty complete to = me.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>James Grebe<BR>Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair<BR>Creator of = Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups<BR>(314) 608-4137<BR><A href="http://www.JamesGrebe.com">WWW.JamesGrebe.com</A><BR>1526 = Raspberry Lane<BR>Arnold, MO 63010<BR>BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!<BR><A href="mailto:pianoman@accessus.net">pianoman@accessus.net</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ilvey@sbcglobal.net = href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net">David Ilvedson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 16, = 2004 2:52 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Help with "bad" tuning...need help</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>But DON"T call = them whole steps cuz they ain't.</DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left>David I.</DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original message ----------------------------------------><BR>From: James Grebe = <<A = href="mailto:pianoman@accessus.net">pianoman@accessus.net</A>><BR>To= : Pianotech <<A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR>Received: = Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:15:33 -0600<BR>Subject: Re: Help with "bad" tuning...need help</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>They are still 100 = cents apart</FONT></DIV> <DIV>James Grebe<BR>Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair<BR>Creator of = Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups<BR>(314) 608-4137<BR><A href="http://www.JamesGrebe.com">WWW.JamesGrebe.com</A><BR>1526 = Raspberry Lane<BR>Arnold, MO 63010<BR>BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!<BR><A href="mailto:pianoman@accessus.net">pianoman@accessus.net</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Piannaman@aol.com href="mailto:Piannaman@aol.com">Piannaman@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 16, = 2004 7:15 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Help with "bad" tuning...need help</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Verdana size=3 = FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="12" BACK="#ffffff">In a message dated 12/16/04 4:06:28 = AM Pacific Standard Time, <A href="mailto:pianoman@accessus.net">pianoman@accessus.net</A> = writes: <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10" = BACK="#ffffff"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff = 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"><BR>I think part of the problem is that we are calling = these half steps.  The <BR>distance between E and F is no larger = than between F and F#.  It is still <BR>100 cents.  Why do we = insist on calling those things whole steps anyway.? <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 = style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Verdana color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" = PTSIZE="12" BACK="#ffffff"><BR>James, <BR><BR>These are half-steps(not whole = steps), aka half-tones, semi-tones or minor seconds, and there are 100 equal = divisions between them.  Each one of these miniscule portions is called a = cent. <BR><BR>Dave Stahl</FONT> = </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>