<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" =
http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META content="MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV>I am a rather non-combative person. It is at great personal risk =
and with
great trepidation that I provide the following comments. But as was =
stated
previously, "To let this pass without comment is called enabling", as =
well as
labeling Americans as being prudish.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'm not a cultural expert, but I really do think that Kristinn is =
pretty
much accurate that some words commonly considered "profane" in the =
U.S. are
considered more casual or slang rather than profane in Europe. I thought =
her
reference to the little pianos was rather cute actually. It brought a =
clear
picture to my mind (ahhh, many fond memories), and a smile to my face =
(thanks
Maria).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hey Maria & Kristinn. Not all Americans are up-tight about the =
casual
use of a slang adjective (just thought that might need to be =
said).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As for professionalism, this talk is nothing that doesn't commonly =
occur in
the hallways at PTG conventions. I don't know that this forum should be =
all that
different than a convention hallway. I'm also not sure that it is the =
place of
Americans in general, or anyone in particular on this list to dictate =
linguistic
moral standards. This list seems both professional and casual to me =
(just
right). Nothing Maria or anyone else has written seems worth getting =
upset about
(well, at least to me).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Oh well, back to counting ballots - or are we supposed to stop - =
what did
the courts say today??????</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Terry Farrell<BR>Piano Tuning & Service<BR>Tampa, Florida<BR><A =
href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</A></DI=
V>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:RptBob1@AOL.COM" =
title=RptBob1@AOL.COM>RptBob1@AOL.COM</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"
title=pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 05, =
2000 10:14
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Burnout/not =
excusable
language</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2><B>In a =
message dated
12/5/2000 10:01:59 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, <BR><A
href="mailto:istuner@islandia.is">istuner@islandia.is</A> writes:
<BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></B><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"
TYPE="CITE">give her a little break. <BR>Not all nations of the =
world are
aware of American sensitivity towards <BR>politically incorrect =
usage of the
word "excrement" <BR><BR>We donīt use the word the same way you =
do, OK?
<BR>Just tell people politely in the future. <BR><BR>Once, while =
with a
boys' choir in Florida, a parakeet that I was holding, <BR>in =
effect, did
so, have a bowel movement on top of my hand, or so I <BR>believed. =
<BR>"Did
he shit on me?", I said in utmost innocence. <BR><BR>Everybody was =
shocked
and they told me I should say "poop" or "crap", <BR>(which I think =
is
******* stupid.) <g> <BR><BR>You should have seen the fa(e)ces =
on the
people when another Icelandic boy <BR>on the same trip said " =
Whatīs this
shit?" when he got his food! <BR><BR>Actually, a customer wouldnīt =
be
offended if I said "shit" in the home. We <BR>use it quite =
commonly
here, as slang</BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT color=#000000 =
face=Arial lang=0
size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><B><BR>Hi: <BR><BR>There is no way to =
determine this
writer (Maria) is from another land. There <BR>are a lot of =
Maria's in
our country. Even if what you imply is true, it is <BR>still no =
excuse
for her -or you as you so often annoyingly do- to use <BR>profanity on =
this
list. This is not a cultural thing- it is a lack of <BR>cultural =
thing.
And if she is just now for the first time being made aware =
<BR>of it
(which I seriously doubt), then I have made a real contribution to
<BR>improving something badly in need of improving. <BR>To let this =
pass
without comment is called enabling. I am not an enabler of =
<BR>incorrect
or boorish behavior. <BR>You will note several affirmations to =
this
have already been forwarded to <BR>this list. <BR>Incidentally, =
I note
people contributing to this list from all over the <BR>world, but =
cannot
recall their using inappropriate language as you seem to <BR>feel is
"quite commonly (used) here as slang" (referring to Iceland).
<BR>Perhaps that says more about Iceland than you really =
wanted us
to know. <BR>Sincerely, <BR><BR>Bob Bergantino, RPT <BR>Willoughby =
Hills, Ohio
</B></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>