<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=810021906-24112003><FONT = face=Arial>Tom,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=810021906-24112003><FONT face=Arial>Did they really = have verdigris, or were they just tight?  Had you tried shrinking the = centers before you tried the "Goof Off"?   Perhaps that would = have taken care of the sluggishness??  I have yet to find verdigris on = anything but a Steinway...call me lucky.  </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=810021906-24112003><FONT = face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=810021906-24112003><FONT = face=Arial>jeannie</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <P><FONT size=2>Jeannie Grassi, RPT<BR>Associate Editor, Piano = Technicians Journal<BR><A href="mailto:jcgrassi@earthlink.net">mailto:jcgrassi@earthlink.net</A><= /FONT> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr = align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On = Behalf Of </B>Tom Driscoll<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:11 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> verdigris-Goof off<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=051114605-24112003>Dear = List,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN = class=051114605-24112003>    Somewhere on this list I believe was mentioned the use of "GOOF-OFF" = solvent for treatment of verdigris in action centers.I have a clients Knabe = upright -1890's that I've thrown the kitchen sink at to ease the sluggishness. = This piano has the worst case of this gunk I've ever seen and on ALL the = centers. protek, Goose juice ,Goose + ballistol . Nothing helped , not = even short term .</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN = class=051114605-24112003>    I remembered a posting about this Goof Off as a treatment and thought = why not. This stuff is EVIL! Made with Xylene and Toulene Use in a very well = ventilated area or better yet outside cause it is strong! </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN = class=051114605-24112003>    I applied liberally ,working the parts applied again ,moving and = juicing the centers and it did wash the crap out!The down side is that several = centers are now too loose and need repining.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN = class=051114605-24112003>    I'll bet the condition will return, but on a piano such as this that = does not support the investment of all new action parts I'm hoping for some = reasonably long term success . </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN = class=051114605-24112003>    Keep you posted.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=051114605-24112003>  Tom,  Verdigris buster -Driscoll</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN = class=051114605-24112003>    </SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>