<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>David ( and list)..</FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thanks. I'm still working on a way to display = the degree of synchronous beating in each key -- e.g. in the major triad, the = beating of the CE major third mingles with the beating of the EG minor third, and = in some keys in some temperaments, these beat rates are in a 2:1 OR 3:2 ratio, = which gives them a kind of tremolo effect, which is (empirically, = subjectively) especially moving when the beat rate is in the area of 6 per second. </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=davidlovepianos@earthlink.net href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net">David Love</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=jkanter@rollingball.com href="mailto:jkanter@rollingball.com">Jason Kanter</A> ; <A title=pianotech@ptg.org = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 13, 2004 = 7:06 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Intervals</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>I got it.  I think the problem I had was that I first went = to Ron Koval's Variable 1.9 which is loaded into the VT as Variable = 2.0.  The offsets are different--not surprising given their different = names.  I assume Ron modified one or the other as a product of further develpment.   Do you know which is the most current of that particular temperament?  Perhaps if Ron is listening... he can comment.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Nice collection of information, btw.  My compliments on = putting it together.  Though I knew about the site, I had not visited = it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>David Love</DIV> <DIV><A = href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net">davidlovepianos@earthlink.n= et</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jkanter@rollingball.com = href="mailto:jkanter@rollingball.com">Jason Kanter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=davidlovepianos@earthlink.net = href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net">davidlovepianos@earthlink.n= et</A>;<A title=pianotech@ptg.org = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 3/13/2004 6:42:07 PM = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Intervals</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>No, that is not correct. The offset for C, = for example, is displayed right below the three columns that represent = the CEG triad. This offset is also the very first line of the data table = that lies below the column chart. This is also illustrated on the page = "Reading the Charts".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Jason</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=davidlovepianos@earthlink.net href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net">David Love</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 13, = 2004 3:26 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: = Intervals</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Jason:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Am I correct in that your charts do not give the offset = settings with which to program an ETD to achieve the various temperaments you = have posted.   If they are there, I was unable to locate them. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>David Love</DIV> <DIV><A = href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net">davidlovepianos@earthlink.n= et</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jkanter@rollingball.com href="mailto:jkanter@rollingball.com">Jason Kanter</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 3/13/2004 2:40:42 = PM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: = Intervals</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The quickest way in, and this = does NOT require Acrobat reader, is here:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A = href="http://www.rollingball.com/TemperamentsFrames.htm">http://www.rol= lingball.com/TemperamentsFrames.htm</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Please read the link "How to = read the charts".</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: = 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=741662027@charter.net = href="mailto:741662027@charter.net">Cy Shuster</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A = title=jjgranas@zigzag.pl href="mailto:jjgranas@zigzag.pl">jjgranas@zigzag.pl</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March = 13, 2004 2:23 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: = Intervals</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Please see Jason Kanter's excellent = compilation of HT's here:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2><A = href="http://www.rollingball.com">http://www.rollingball.com</A></FONT>= </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>It needs Adobe Reader to view the = file.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>--Cy Shuster--</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Rochester, MN</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: = 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jjgranas@zigzag.pl href="mailto:jjgranas@zigzag.pl">Jean-Jacques Granas</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March = 13, 2004 4:18 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> = Intervals</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello list,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Does anyone here have a = table with different intervals as they appear in different = tunings/temperaments that he/she would be willing to send me ? This would help me = understand this debate on historical = temperaments.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peace,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial = size=2>jj</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></B= LOCKQUOTE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>