<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Terry, I've used the vice grip method for a while but went back to bending the loops with the round wire pliers, because the loops were breaking a lot just below the correct pressure and pitch. Aggravating.  I think it stresses the wire too much to make that small a loop. Warren Farrell wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style> Hi Hazen. When you look in the archives, also be sure to look for methods using vice grips to bent the string around. >From what I understand, this is the slickest way to go. I have been using the knot in Reblitz with good success also. I haven't figured out the vice grip method yet - largely because I don't seem to be able to search the archives - if you do find some good posts on this (maybe some from Ron N.) maybe you might pass them on to me!?!?!?!? Thanks and good luck. Regarding prevention of string breakage in church pianos, I have heard that two things seem to work best. One is to provide for an earlier letoff - will tend to depower the hammer striking the strings. The other is to provide the pianist a 10,000 watt bank of speakers situated very close to the pianist and pointed straight at her/him - with volume turned up real high. This can help the pianist think that merely pounding the $%&# out of the keyboard is sufficient to be heard (by all, including the Goddesses!).Terry Farrellformer SAT #363 owner <blockquote style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</div> <div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: <a href="mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net" title="jonpage@mediaone.net">Jon Page</a></div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title="pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a></div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:30 AM</div> <div style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Re: String splicing</div>  At 08:34 AM 12/4/2001 -0500, you wrote: <blockquote cite type="cite">Hi list,   I would like to start a discussion on string splicing.I have recently inherited several churches with string breaking going on.(I think to bad playing habits,but maybe some discussion on that.)I know of the knot in Reblitz,and have had success with it.But I know the wealth of knowledge on the list maybe can throw new light,new methods on this subject. Thanks to all, Hazen Bannister Western Carolinas Chapter</blockquote> All this is in the Archives.  More reading than you can shake a string at.     Regards, Jon Page,   piano technician Harwich Port, Cape Cod, Mass. <a href="mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net" eudora="autourl">mailto:</a>jonpage<a href="mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net" eudora="autourl">@mediaone.net</a> <a href="http://www.stanwoodpiano.com/" eudora="autourl">http://www.stanwoodpiano.com</a> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</blockquote> </blockquote> -- Warren Fisher RPT fish@Communique.net 1422 Briarwood Dr. Slidell, LA 70458-3102   </body> </html>