<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi again Jerry,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It has been my experience that a tipper = will not work for this project as the glue needs to be applied from the rear of = the piano to get the neatest finished repair. One thing that I omited, to get the = G glue to travel further into the seperated area use 2" masking tape to cover = the crevasse.  This will somewhat direct the glue deeper between the = two parts.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tipping the piano will only minimally = allow  glue to travel with gravity, as the glue will suspend between the two = sides and stop its flow due to surface tension.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>G glue is thicker than Tightbond but = just a little swells up to 4 times its liquid volume. Then hardens to a sort of = plastic that has little crawl.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 08, 2004 = 6:21 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Baldwin Hamilton = loose side panel</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 = size=7><EM><U>NO!</U></EM></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Get a proper upright piano = tilter.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Jerry Cohen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:emailforjc@yahoo.com"><FONT face=Arial size=2>emailforjc@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "'Pianotech'" <</FONT><A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT face=Arial size=2>pianotech@ptg.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial = size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 7:49 PM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: RE: Baldwin Hamilton loose = side panel</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT = face=Arial size=2>> David and Joe,<BR>> <BR>> Thanks for the excellent = information.<BR>> One more question. Is it safe to tilt the piano = forward with 1 person, or<BR>> should I bring a helper? <BR>> <BR>> = Also, for Joe; does Gorilla glue get along well with Goose juice, or do = they<BR>> need separate cages? Sorry, couldn't help that one.<BR>> <BR>> = Thanks for the help.<BR>> <BR>> Jerry Cohen<BR>> <BR>> = -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: </FONT><A href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org"><FONT face=Arial size=2>pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial = size=2> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf<BR>> Of Dave = Nereson<BR>> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 7:08 AM<BR>> To: Pianotech<BR>> = Subject: Re: Baldwin Hamilton loose side panel<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- = Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Jerry Cohen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:emailforjc@yahoo.com"><FONT face=Arial size=2>emailforjc@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial = size=2>><BR>> To: "'Pianotech'" <</FONT><A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT = face=Arial size=2>pianotech@ptg.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial = size=2>><BR>> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 6:57 PM<BR>> Subject: Baldwin Hamilton = loose side panel<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> . . . . .<BR>> > My question is, = what is the best way to make this repair? The side panel<BR>> is<BR>> = > attached, but I can separate it slightly from the back frame everywhere<BR>> from<BR>> > top to bottom at the back. In = order to get glue in, I think it would be<BR>> best<BR>> > to tilt the = piano forward and rest it on the keybed. Can the keybed<BR>> = support<BR>> > this weight?<BR>> <BR>> =         Heck yeah; you might tighten screws first just so everything's<BR>> solid.<BR>> <BR>> >Also, what is the best glue to use now? = Should I use epoxy, or<BR>> > is yellow glue ok?<BR>> <BR>>         Yellow glue should be fine = as long as you can do a good clamping<BR>> job.<BR>> <BR>> > I was = planning on using long pipe clamps the full width<BR>> > of the = piano. Getting the glue in is my biggest concern.<BR>> <BR>> =     Sounds good.  That's what I've done in the past.  Use a long = soundboard<BR>> steel or old hacksaw blade to distribute the glue = around in the crack.<BR>> <BR>>  > Has anyone seen this = problem?  Appreciate any help.<BR>>      > = Thanks.<BR>>  > Jerry Cohen<BR>>  > NJ chapter<BR>> <BR>>     Yes.  A few times.  I fixed it just the = way you're thinking.  Just make<BR>> sure everything's lined up = correctly so you don't end up with bad regulation<BR>> problems.  But it = sounds like the side hasn't come completely loose on<BR>> yours, so you = should be OK.<BR>>     --David Nereson, RPT<BR>> <BR>> = <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> = pianotech list info: </FONT><A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"><FONT = face=Arial = size=2>https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</FONT></A><BR><FON= T face=Arial size=2>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> pianotech list = info: </FONT><A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"><FONT = face=Arial = size=2>https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</FONT></A><BR><FON= T face=Arial size=2>> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>