<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1226" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes indeed you are right John. It has = the plates that are loose - but being that the secure the pins, does that not = mean the pins are loose as well? (ha, ha) As Richard pointed out, it looks like = some have migrated into the neighboring flange bushing - I've seen that before.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regarding pushing the pin back in - = I've tried that, and I guess I have knocked enough bushings out now that I tend to = just repin it and not worry about pushing the bushing out of the flange. = Maybe your luck is better?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca = href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">John Ross</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 13, = 2003 11:53 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: New Center Pin = Design</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Hi Terry,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>This Yamaha, probably has the plates = with a screw to hold the pin in place.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>These screws should be snugged up, to = stop the pin from wandering.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>It is not so much a loose pin that is = causing the problem, it is the loose plate.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Sometimes the pins can just be pushed = back in place with no damage, if you loosen the plate a bit more.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Then just tighten the screw. Problem = solved without repining.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>John M. Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada<BR><A = href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></DIV>= <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 13, = 2003 6:32 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: New Center Pin Design</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That was actually the problem. When = I first saw it I figured the guy chewed up the flange bushings with this = innovation, but I repinned it with an 0.048" pin - so no enlargement there. The long = unclipped end interferring with the hammer shank wanting to = return to the rest postion is what caused the inoperable key. I could see that = at least half of the hammer flange center pins were walking out of = their proper postition on this piano - presumably I'll have a repinning = and general action refurbishing job on the piano. This particular = piano was the worst Yamaha I have ever tuned with respect to stray string = noise (my experience is that Yamahas are usually a pleasure to = tune) - more like tuning a Kimball console (false beats and unisons that would = just not come clean - I hate that).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no href="mailto:Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no">Richard Brekne</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September = 13, 2003 4:10 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: New Center Pin = Design</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Terry <P>you gotta love it... ... the fellow / gal was clever enough to = screw the darned thing out and put it in again.... but not clever enough = to snip off the leftover clip... wunerful...:) <P>Farrell wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"> <STYLE></STYLE> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Great new center pin design. = This (below) was recovered from a 35-year old Yamaha console. One key didn't = seem to be working.......</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT = size=-1>I'm all for improvising, but this is = ridiculous!</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Terry = Farrell</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>-- <BR>Richard Brekne <BR>RPT, N.P.T.F. <BR>UiB, Bergen, Norway = <BR><A = href="mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no">mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no</A> = <BR><A = href="http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html">http://home.broad= park.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html</A> <BR><A = href="http://www.hf.uib.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html">http://www.hf.uib= .no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html</A> <BR>  = </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>