<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @font-face { font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } P.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=blue link=blue bgColor=white> <DIV>Hi All</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> Dean said "most of my clientele = they have no idea what the PTG is".---And who's fault is this Dean? I am not = picking on you Dean. This is exactly the point I was making.---It is up to the = individual members to talk up PTG membership and we don't do it. If we don't do = it ourselves it just isn't going to happen.</DIV></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"> "What if we dropped the = “benefit” of allowing associates to advertise their membership with PTG? For = those that only want to advertise their association with the PTG, it might give = them a little more motivation to take the test." -------It was this way for = many years until "we again shot ourselves in the foot"   A number of years ago, = during our National in Philadelphia, I glanced in the yellow pages.  They = had a heading telling what RPT and PTG meant and a listing of the RPT's in = that area with phone numbers.  I thought it was terrific. I don't know if = this would be available on a national program but I think it is worth = exploring if it hasn't already been done.   As far as = priority,  We have been jacking around with this for 20 years or longer. It is time to = get it fixed.   Ron = May   From: <A title=deanmay@pianorebuilders.com href="mailto:deanmay@pianorebuilders.com">Dean May</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech List'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Saturday, February 11, = 2006 6:51 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: RE: = Upgrading.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> >>Something needs = to be done and it needs to become a priority.   You have yet to = demonstrate what the crisis is and why we have to “do something.” Of course it is a = problem, but is it really such a crisis that we have to start talking about = government intervention??    It seems like your = biggest beef is that associates can advertise themselves as being members of = PTG. I’ve also heard that complaint from many others. Personally I don’t = advertise my status with PTG. For most of my clientele they have no idea what the = PTG is. For those who do know, advertising myself as an associate is = advertising myself as a non-RPT. I see no benefit in advertising my associate = status.   What if we dropped the = “benefit” of allowing associates to advertise their membership with PTG? For = those that only want to advertise their association with the PTG, it might give = them a little more motivation to take the test.   <DIV> Dean Dean = May           &nbs= p; cell 812.239.3359 PianoRebuilders.com   = 812.235.5272 Terre Haute IN  47802</DIV>   -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of RON MAY, = RPT Sent: Friday, = February 10, 2006 11:27 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: Upgrading.....   <DIV> Hi = People</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> Until the day comes that = the public  becomes educated,  aware and demands expertise and professional performance or heaven forbid the government becomes = involved and demands licensing such as that demanded for other  trades such as = plumbers and electricians, we are just lighting a fire under and = empty skillet. Now that anyone can show themselves as a member of PTG and we = have come up with "Registered" members, which no one has the slightest idea = about instead off craftsman ratings or some other descriptive rating there = is only one motivation and that is from within.. Unfortunately not very many = seem to have this motivation or pride in their work and = profession. Whether we are RPTs, Certified Tuner Technicians,or craftsman, getting = the message out is up to we individual technicians and most of us are busy = and have become very complacent about the problem. To me Certified = says a whole lot more than registered. I'm "Registered" to vote in Florida and we all know what that means but obviously some don't know how to do it.</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> We as PTG just continue = to shoot ourselves in the foot on this issue. Something needs to be done = and it needs to become a priority.</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> Ron May </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: = medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt = 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: = medium none"> <DIV> ----- Original Message = ----- </DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> From: <A title=avery1@houston.rr.com = href="mailto:avery1@houston.rr.com">Avery</A> </DIV> <DIV> To: <A title=pianotech@ptg.org = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:37 PM</DIV> <DIV> Subject: Re: Upgrading.....</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> This subject HAS been on = ptg-L. For DAYS!!!!!!!!!! Weeks? :-( Avery At = 09:05 AM 2/10/2006, you wrote: Looks like this should be = on ptg-l.   Barbara Richmond ----- Original Message = ----- From: <A href="mailto:mkurta@adelphia.net">Mike Kurta</A> = To: <A = href="mailto:ptg-l@ptg.org">PTG Topics</A> ; <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> Sent: Friday, = February 10, 2006 8:24 AM Subject: Upgrading.....     Standing = back and taking a long look at the number of associates who have not = upgraded, how about a personal approach on a chapter level?  Though there = needs to be good incentives to move to RPT status, would a one-on-one, = face-to-face conversation with each associate by another chapter member, officer = or not, would yeild more results than all the machinations from higher = up?  Find out personally if the member has interest in upgrading, and if = so, how can the chapter help to move him/her in that direction?  There = are some who have no interest and will never be an RPT for whatever = reason.  However, they still want to be a part of the organization.  = That may always be.  But the associates who plan to become RPT's perhaps = can best be served by a dialogue in person, privately, quietly,  = from another member,  and that person could also be his/her mentor = through the process.   Flame suit on and = ready.....     Mike = Kurta </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>